Thinking of Taking the VZ58 Plunge

[TheDevilHimself]

I reckon most here'll fancy the guns' tacticool habiliment, but I prefer them just the way CZ originally intended them.

Damn right

 

[rtruhn]

Our friends at Duffys have 5.56 guns available soon. I have raised my hand for one in a fixed poly stock. More 7.62 guns with fixed stocks in November (think I will get one of those two)

Definitely interested in 5.56, especially if a rifle instead of a pistol. I am still hoping to SBR the M85 so a full rifle that takes AR mags would be preferable for me. Vince and crew, any ETA on these?

 

[TheDevilHimself]

Definitely interested in 5.56, especially if a rifle instead of a pistol. I am still hoping to SBR the M85 so a full rifle that takes AR mags would be preferable for me. Vince and crew, any ETA on these?

If you want one with a collapsible stock in 5.56, I can have one here in a week. The fixed stocks are due in late October. Dan Brown from Czechpoint is coming up to our MG shoot this weekend, so if you want one, let me know via PM ASAP and I'll have him bring some up.

 

[amoebicmagician]

Just finished up this video showcasing a VZ58 SBR, if this doesn't make you want to take the plunge I don't know what will...

You are holding my preferred bugout rifle in this video. Only thing it's missing is a 1-4 optic on a siderail and you've got something so easy to stick in a backpack, under a seat, in your lap while driving...

Just soooooooo effective. I LOVE IT

 

[Wayne1one]

You are holding my preferred bugout rifle in this video. Only thing it's missing is a 1-4 optic on a siderail and you've got something so easy to stick in a backpack, under a seat, in your lap while driving...

Just soooooooo effective. I LOVE IT

It really is an awesome rifle, that's such a sleeper in the firearms industry..

 

[amoebicmagician]

I KNOW! I've loved these rifles for much longer than the FSA was a thing. Even in full length 16 inch barrel configuration they are so damned light and handy, one of the only rifles I have gotten my hands on that outdoes my old department of corrections mini-14 GB in terms of sheer handiness.

The damn things are marvels of engineering, you pop off the dust cover, pull out the guts of the rifle and the damn thing is so open and easy to clean it's ridiculous. Everything is captive pins and redundant wide open spaces, and I absofreakinlutely LOVE the locking mechanism of this gun, the czechs are such incredible engineers!

Then there's the fact that I have NEVER had a single malfunction EVER from any of my D-technik rifles other than primers failing to ignite, and that had nothing to do with the rifle and everything to do with shitty tulammo.

 

[Wayne1one]

I KNOW! I've loved these rifles for much longer than the FSA was a thing. Even in full length 16 inch barrel configuration they are so damned light and handy, one of the only rifles I have gotten my hands on that outdoes my old department of corrections mini-14 GB in terms of sheer handiness.

The damn things are marvels of engineering, you pop off the dust cover, pull out the guts of the rifle and the damn thing is so open and easy to clean it's ridiculous. Everything is captive pins and redundant wide open spaces, and I absofreakinlutely LOVE the locking mechanism of this gun, the czechs are such incredible engineers!

Then there's the fact that I have NEVER had a single malfunction EVER from any of my D-technik rifles other than primers failing to ignite, and that had nothing to do with the rifle and everything to do with shitty tulammo.

Pretty much sums it up! When I bought my D-technik gun back in March 2011 I felt like I was doing something wrong (cash and carry days) just walking away with such a sweet rifle while others waited for their AKs/M4s


IMG_6958 by 556 Channel (HD), on Flickr

 

[2nd=Good+Substantial]

I reckon most here'll fancy the guns' tacticool habiliment, but I prefer them just the way CZ originally intended them.

I'm right there with you. Beaver barf is beautiful!

 

[amoebicmagician]

have you considered a brake or flash hider on your SBR? I have been surprised how effective the czech military brake is at hiding flash, but if you want to keep it as short as possible just a short birdcage fh/comp is pretty cheap from CNC warrior.

I sent in pretty much all my flash hiders to be finished in melonite, but even before that they matched the finish of the rifle well.

GOD that SBR is so damned SEXY

 

[Wayne1one]

have you considered a brake or flash hider on your SBR? I have been surprised how effective the czech military brake is at hiding flash, but if you want to keep it as short as possible just a short birdcage fh/comp is pretty cheap from CNC warrior.

I sent in pretty much all my flash hiders to be finished in melonite, but even before that they matched the finish of the rifle well.

GOD that SBR is so damned SEXY

Yeah it needs a brake badly, but I am reluctant due to the increased length. I will get one eventually I guess....

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[Jimbob2.0]

Yeah it needs a brake badly, but I am reluctant due to the increased length. I will get one eventually I guess....

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What about just putting a slant compensator on it?

I really believe these will be like some of the stuff we didn't buy in the 90s (e.g., higher end Polytechs etc) maybe not as collectible as they don't have the mystique but not hugely far off. Indexed for inflation, they are not far off in price (keep in mind a Polytech was never $50, $250 to $450 was a lot in the late 80s.

 

[erwos]

I dunno... CSA/Czechpoint/whomever is still making Vz58s, so there's something of a price ceiling to how far they can really go. Maybe if they were in imminent ban territory, but that would be any gun.

I don't really regret selling my 7.62x39 Vz2008. I liked the gun - it was reliable and accurate - but I vastly prefer using AK mags for cross-gun compatibility purposes. I was also not enamored with the optics mounting options (which were either expensive or so-so). I would definitely be amenable to a 5.56x45 AR-15-mag version in the future, especially since they have side rails.

 

[Jimbob2.0]

I dunno... CSA/Czechpoint/whomever is still making Vz58s, so there's something of a price ceiling to how far they can really go. Maybe if they were in imminent ban territory, but that would be any gun.

I don't really regret selling my 7.62x39 Vz2008. I liked the gun - it was reliable and accurate - but I vastly prefer using AK mags for cross-gun compatibility purposes. I was also not enamored with the optics mounting options (which were either expensive or so-so). I would definitely be amenable to a 5.56x45 AR-15-mag version in the future, especially since they have side rails.

Duffys just hooked me up with a 5.56 with side rail and mag adapter in black poly. Can pick it up in about a week. Price really was fair.

7.62x39 will come in later in the year.

 

[Sirex]

Just curious on the price range, but what does a 5.56 VZ with scope rail run from Duffy's generally? Just a link if necessary but didn't see it on their subforum last I looked.

 

[TheDevilHimself]

Just curious on the price range, but what does a 5.56 VZ with scope rail run from Duffy's generally? Just a link if necessary but didn't see it on their subforum last I looked.

This one was $1200- $1050 for the base fixed stock/poly furniture rifle, plus $150 for the scope rail and AR mag well adapter installed.

 

[Sirex]

This one was $1200- $1050 for the base fixed stock/poly furniture rifle, plus $150 for the scope rail and AR mag well adapter installed.

Nice. Thank you

 

[Jimbob2.0]

Ok guys, so I have two VZ58s coming in over the next 2 months. One 5.56 one 7.62x39.

Need to figure out optics, both have rails. Suggestions? I was thinking something like a PSO/PSOP for the 7.62x39 for function and classic cold war looks.

Maybe something more along the lines of a Kobra or red-dot for the 5.56.

 

[Jimbob2.0]

Took he plunge. See below

5.56, Czech black poly furniture, AR mag adapter and siderail.

Much better fit and finish than my VZ2008. Also its amazing how light these guns are, it feels and handles lighter than even my striped down M4gery and my stamped AKs. About the same as an M1 carbine.

 

[Sirex]

What is availability of the 5.56 mags if you can send them to PA? Enough out there?

 

[Jimbob2.0]

What is availability of the 5.56 mags if you can send them to PA? Enough out there?

I don't know honestly, I know they don't seem to come to market very often. That said, there is another issue, if you get one with Czech furniture they are too short on US parts for 922r.

Getting the Czechpoint AR mag adapter solves both issues (since US made AR mags are not a common, I don't even think I have one that isn't US made), so I just had Duffys order it that way.