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Com Block 54r ammo can work in one Mosin and not so well in another.
Good excuse to buy another Mosin rifle , SVT 40 or even a PSL Dragunov sniper rifle
Stuck with bad ammo?
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Com Block 54r ammo can work in one Mosin and not so well in another.
Good excuse to buy another Mosin rifle , SVT 40 or even a PSL Dragunov sniper rifle
Mossberg Kid
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Remember, the seller sold you surplus ammo, he didn't design it, manufacture it, or hand load it..... goes with the turf of surplus ammo. Throw it in a barrel on the next 4th of July.
Sounds like another reason to buy an 1917, Mauser or Springfield instead of a 98 dollar anchor.
An expensive lesson learned. Although I have a couple of friends on Facebook willing to try a couple of boxes, then purchase some of it from me if it works out for them.
And I have since purchased a Yugo Mauser, which works much better than my Mosin-Nagant.
Mossberg Kid
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+1 This
Com Block 54r ammo can work in one Mosin and not so well in another.
Good excuse to buy another Mosin rifle , SVT 40 or even a PSL Dragunov sniper rifle
If I buy another Mosin, at this point, it would be a sporterized version.
I have since purchased a Mauser; a much better experience all around.
Threeband
The M1 Does My Talking
That patch had probably been there since Kursk.
Sirex
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Clean out the chamber VERY thoroughly. Some cosmo in there will cause the bolt to bind up. Of maybe it just doesn't like that particular ammo, in which the rifle is fine. How much of it did you buy? FWIW my rifles hated Wolf, but UCW and Priv run thru fine.
Mossberg Kid
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Mossberg Kid
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(in my best Elvis) Thankyou.Thankyouverymuch.
Now if you buy a "real" shotgun next.......................
Mossberg Kid
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Now if you buy a "real" shotgun next.......................
Ha ha ha!
I love me some Mossberg up in here!
Machodoc
Old Guy
^^^ This
The cases on your ammo may be just a hair larger in diameter than the surplus that you've been using ... just enough that some cosmo residue, or even excessive oil, may be cooking it into place. Another possibility is that the casings of the new stuff were treated with a coating that's getting a bit tacky with heat.
Strip the rifle down and clean the chamber with brake cleaner and a bronze brush. See if that helps. You may also want to wipe down a few casings with acetone (or steal your wife's nail polish remover) to see if there's a coating on it that is adding to the problem. You may not be stuck with something you can't use after all.
Mossberg Kid
Active Member
I think I'll try that; good idea; thanks.
BLACKTALON
Ammo is like food
+1 This
Com Block 54r ammo can work in one Mosin and not so well in another.
Good excuse to buy another Mosin rifle , SVT 40 or even a PSL Dragunov sniper rifle
get a vepr i shoot one and it was so fun im buying one when i save up
Rangeman
Active Member
Is the ammo lacquer coated? Years ago, when I had Mosin's, I had the same problem with lacquer coated ammo. It took a rubber mallet to get the bolt open.
guthook
Grrr.
Again, to stress the importance, scrub the chamber. Make sure to get the nooks and crannies also.
I believe a .410 shotgun brush will fit, it's been a while since I had your problem (and can't remember exactly which brush it was).
I believe a .410 shotgun brush will fit, it's been a while since I had your problem (and can't remember exactly which brush it was).
dr_baer
Active Member
Good idea, I have a Mosin that I need to do that to.
Mossberg Kid
Active Member
get a vepr i shoot one and it was so fun im buying one when i save up
I'll have to check it out; I'm always looking for the next great firearm.
Mossberg Kid
Active Member
I'm not sure, but I stopped at CVS and picked up some nail polish remover and will work over a few boxes tonight and go shooting in the morning. I'll provide an update, either way.
Rangeman
Active Member
I can't remember the specifics, but shooting lacquer coated ammo + heat = sticky= stuck bolt.
Hope the nail polish remover works.....
Hope the nail polish remover works.....
Joshua M. Smith
Hoosier
Hello,
Watch this video:
and this video:
Both will exit you to YouTube as I cannot find a way to post vids here. There is no icon. Edit: Figured it out.
If all is well there, take the rifle out with some paper towels. Make the rifle holy; shoot the hell out of it. Go with 10 rounds and swab out the chamber and throat with a rolled up paper towel.
Check for any tearing of the towel or towel particles, discard towel and check chamber.
Load five more, fire, and swab out.
You will get cosmoline bleeding out. Keep going until the paper towel roll is gone!
After you check your bolt against the vids and follow the paper towel procedure, you should be good to go.
I'm thinking about lightly coating a few cartridges with Militec-1. It bonds with steel and gets it really slick. I use it as a backup lube on all my guns: They get Militec-1 and then normal CLP with maintenance doses of the Militec now and again.
My theory is that the Militec-1 should slick up the chamber to such a high degree that I will not be able to discern the difference between having a live round eject and a fired case eject.
Militec is good stuff; just don't use it to the exclusion of CLP or similar. It is an excellent dry lubricant but does not protect against corrosion, nor does it clean any better than a regular light oil might.
If you still cannot get these to shoot, I might be interested in purchasing them. I would just load them with my own powder (Varget or such) or pull the bullets and load them into brass cases.
Regards,
Josh
Watch this video:
and this video:
If all is well there, take the rifle out with some paper towels. Make the rifle holy; shoot the hell out of it. Go with 10 rounds and swab out the chamber and throat with a rolled up paper towel.
Check for any tearing of the towel or towel particles, discard towel and check chamber.
Load five more, fire, and swab out.
You will get cosmoline bleeding out. Keep going until the paper towel roll is gone!
After you check your bolt against the vids and follow the paper towel procedure, you should be good to go.
I'm thinking about lightly coating a few cartridges with Militec-1. It bonds with steel and gets it really slick. I use it as a backup lube on all my guns: They get Militec-1 and then normal CLP with maintenance doses of the Militec now and again.
My theory is that the Militec-1 should slick up the chamber to such a high degree that I will not be able to discern the difference between having a live round eject and a fired case eject.
Militec is good stuff; just don't use it to the exclusion of CLP or similar. It is an excellent dry lubricant but does not protect against corrosion, nor does it clean any better than a regular light oil might.
If you still cannot get these to shoot, I might be interested in purchasing them. I would just load them with my own powder (Varget or such) or pull the bullets and load them into brass cases.
Regards,
Josh
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