SBR's in MD, ATF needs your help!

[bobthefisher]

They (ATF) have been sent so much material on the subject, and dumbed down to the point of making flow charts At this point every time I call them it's always "we're reviewing it now" or something along those lines. I know MD gun law is majorly confusing, but they have been given EVERYTHING they need to come to the same conclusion as the MSP advisory.

The ATF's legal council needs to hurry up and make things right.

 

[rtse4me]

I have a question after reading this thread.
If I wanted to SBR a SCAR(with no flash hider) or a piston AR that would be over 29" is that ok? Or are all SBRs being declined?
These still can be purchased today so they are not banned. I have a LMT with the MRP chassis that I would like to get a 12" barrel.

 

[dgtaurus]

I have a question after reading this thread.
If I wanted to SBR a SCAR(with no flash hider) or a piston AR that would be over 29" is that ok? Or are all SBRs being declined?
These still can be purchased today so they are not banned. I have a LMT with the MRP chassis that I would like to get a 12" barrel.

Personally I'd hold off on sending anything in until they get this crap worked out but I think we're just mainly having issues with AR's. But I could be wrong

 

[awptickes]

Just submitted a 22lr AR-15 SBR. I attached the MSP letter explaining copycat weapons, and pointed out that copycat only applies to "centerfire" so hopefully that works.

 

[bobthefisher]

I've seen no posts or word from anyone recently that have been approved for any SBR's in Maryland within the last couple months. There has been a couple approvals (including AR-15 SBR's), but for lack of a better explanation, they probably just got lucky (different examiners).

For the most part, as long as you follow the "Copycat weapon" restrictions then you're legally fine. The problem has been getting the majority of the ATF NFA examiners to understand this fact.

I've been calling\emailing MSP and the ATF at least twice a week and have been given the same answer. "We're still reviewing it..."

Judging how long it took MSP to issue the SBR/SBS advisory from the time FSA2013 went into effect, which is a litmus test on how long legal councils (ATF) take reviewing the law, we're still probably looking at another couple months before they start approving SBR's again in MD.

Just a guess, but so far it's been looking that way.

 

[bobthefisher]

Just submitted a 22lr AR-15 SBR. I attached the MSP letter explaining copycat weapons, and pointed out that copycat only applies to "centerfire" so hopefully that works.

Unfortunately, I've been there done that. The one I submitted was for just a Ruger 10/22 SBR under 29 inches in OAL. Still was disapproved.

You're now betting on the fact that these issues will be cleared up by the time your application is formally reviewed.

 

[drfroglegs]

Is this going to slow things down?

http://smnewsnet.com/archives/192206/maryland-state-police-superintendent-announces-resignation/

Just hear-say, but I'll repeat...

I heard when Hogan visited the Associated Gun Clubs to get support of the shooting community he promised he would get rid of Marcus Brown 1st thing. I heard a few days ago that although he "resigned" he was forcefully resigned by Hogan to keep his promise to the shooting community.

I believe this to be very, very true based on the source and it makes me extremely proud to have voted for Hogan.

So to answer your question, no. In fact his resignation is a good sign for the shooting community and will only help things.

 

[IMBLITZVT]

Just hear-say, but I'll repeat...

I heard when Hogan visited the Associated Gun Clubs to get support of the shooting community he promised he would get rid of Marcus Brown 1st thing. I heard a few days ago that although he "resigned" he was forcefully resigned by Hogan to keep his promise to the shooting community.

I believe this to be very, very true based on the source and it makes me extremely proud to have voted for Hogan.

So to answer your question, no. In fact his resignation is a good sign for the shooting community and will only help things.

I was in the room for the Hogan visit to the AGC. I don't remember the promise to get rid of Brown but then again I try not to listen to promises of politicians. I remember he did not make us any real promises about him turning things around for the gun community but more assured us of his support for our ideals and that he would do what he could given a hostile legislature. I actually kind of appreciated the honesty and the lack of promises as we all know how well they hold. He got my vote, not that I was going in any other direction... as I hated O'Malley and would not ever vote for anyone related to him.

 

[jmike1487]

Looks like I will be waiting to build my SBR now. Damn it. Time to go work on the trust

 

[schnejerator]

Anything new on this?

 

[smokeybear]

Are they approving none at all now? Or any thing over 29" OAL.

 

[SWO Daddy]

None at all to my knowledge.

 

[schnejerator]

Not that I want to read too much into it but it seems they are at least sitting on them right now and not disapproving while digesting it all...

 

[AK-47]

Has anyone had an SBR recently approved that is on the MD pistol roster?
I have a pending sbr on form 4 individual that is due around April. The sbr is on the roster. I am getting nervous on this recent hold up by the ATF on the SBR approval process....

 

[bobthefisher]

No, nothing yet.

 

[ride4frnt]

Got a disapproval today on my form 1 for a stupid mistake i made. I put my name in 3b instead of the trust.

However, the disapproval notes say NOTHING about being illegal in maryland. Not sure if that means anything. Signature looks like Jason M. something, but very unreadable.

 

[SWO Daddy]

Got a disapproval today on my form 1 for a stupid mistake i made. I put my name in 3b instead of the trust.

However, the disapproval notes say NOTHING about being illegal in maryland. Not sure if that means anything. Signature looks like Jason M. something, but very unreadable.

When did you submit?

 

[ride4frnt]

When did you submit?

December 26

 

[psusra112]

Ugh, sitting here waiting to buy the parts for an SBR AR. Hope this gets sorted soon.

 

[awptickes]

Well, fix it and resubmit!