Question regarding firearm possession/carry at work

[71Chevelle427]

I was looking around here and elsewhere, but I cannot seem to find the info I am looking for.

I thought I had read somewhere that you could carry on private property without any sort of license or permit?

This is not MY property, but my employer's property and after an event that took place here this morning, I would feel much better having access to some sort of self defense, aside from a baseball bat, or a "monkey" wrench...

IF, I have permission from the property owner (my boss), can I carry, either openly, or concealed, as long as I stay on the property?

If not, am I legally allowed to bring a firearm with me, and lock it or otherwise store it in an accessible location?

Thanks in advance for any guidance or advice.

 

[Jaybeez]

you must be a supervisory employee, and have the owner's permission. i assume the owner must also be on the lease in order to give that permission. also, a semi recent court case says that employees must remain within the confines of the establishment, so indoors only, no parking lots or outdoors.

transport of a regulated firearm is another can of worms i believe.

 

[71Chevelle427]

you must be a supervisory employee, and have the owner's permission. i assume the owner must also be on the lease in order to give that permission. also, a semi recent court case says that employees must remain within the confines of the establishment, so indoors only, no parking lots or outdoors.

transport of a regulated firearm is another can of worms i believe.

Technically, I am a supervisory employee so that should be one less issue. The owner of the business, also owns the property we reside at. A friend suggested just bringing in my little pistol grip 12 gauge and storing it in my office during business hours. The issue is that I have several overhead doors that are normally open here, which allow fairly easy access to anyone who chooses to trespass, and I'm not always in the office, obviously.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[Mr H]

Long guns are less problematic than handguns.

As long as the owner is OK, you're GTG (assuming, of course, you're not prohibited).

 

[71Chevelle427]

Long guns are less problematic than handguns.

As long as the owner is OK, you're GTG (assuming, of course, you're not prohibited).

Thanks. Safe assumption too.

 

[swinokur]

MD 4-203 statute

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/f...on=4-203&ext=html&session=2015RS&tab=subject5
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[protegeV]

What is "the confines of the business establishment?"

 

[swinokur]

not a lawyer, but perhaps inside the physical building, unless the business is conducted outside the actual building.

 

[71Chevelle427]

MD 4-203 statute

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/f...on=4-203&ext=html&session=2015RS&tab=subject5
.

That seems to say that even outside, on the property (i.e. real estate), would be OK? I'm more concerned about someone entering, but it'd be nice if remaining indoors wasn't a requirement.

It also looks like it can be carried either openly, or concealed.

Thank you for the info. That is what I saw before, but couldn't re-find it.

 

[DanGuy48]

I was not aware of that supervisory employee thing. So how do armed RSOs fit? Are they considered supervisory because they supervise customer use of a range, even though customers are not employees? Within the company, they certainly have no supervisory role, usually.

 

[swinokur]

If an RSO can issue an order to cease fire anmd make the range cold, wouldn't that be supervisory?

 

[swinokur]

That seems to say that even outside, on the property (i.e. real estate), would be OK? I'm more concerned about someone entering, but it'd be nice if remaining indoors wasn't a requirement.

It also looks like it can be carried either openly, or concealed.

Thank you for the info. That is what I saw before, but couldn't re-find it.

on your property, inside or outside. legal. open or concealed -ok.

 

[swinokur]

Thank you for the info. That is what I saw before, but couldn't re-find it.

we are here to serve.

 

[lx1x]

Rso.. personally don't think it's covered under supervisory position. I think that supervisory is for employed personnel.. Not guest/students/clients.

My 2 ¢

I was not aware of that supervisory employee thing. So how do armed RSOs fit? Are they considered supervisory because they supervise customer use of a range, even though customers are not employees? Within the company, they certainly have no supervisory role, usually.

If an RSO can issue an order to cease fire anmd make the range cold, wouldn't that be supervisory?

 

[71Chevelle427]

on your property, inside or outside. legal. open or concealed -ok.

we are here to serve.

Thanks again. But you forgot....

YANAL...

 

[swinokur]

true but I cited the statute, not my legal opinion.

 

[redeemed.man]

Technically, I am a supervisory employee so that should be one less issue. The owner of the business, also owns the property we reside at. A friend suggested just bringing in my little pistol grip 12 gauge and storing it in my office during business hours. The issue is that I have several overhead doors that are normally open here, which allow fairly easy access to anyone who chooses to trespass, and I'm not always in the office, obviously.

Thanks for the reply.

You are a big guy, a pistol grip 12 gauge is like a handgun for you anyway. LOL

 

[71Chevelle427]

true but I cited the statute, not my legal opinion.

I know sir. I couldn't resist.

 

[swinokur]

 

[71Chevelle427]

You are a big guy, a pistol grip 12 gauge is like a handgun for you anyway. LOL

LOL...Thanks buddy.

Hey, I have lost 14 pounds in the last 4 weeks. I don't know about concealing a 12 gauge, but I don't think I'd have a problem with an S&W 500, lol.