Obama & ATF Now Demand Race of Gun Buyers

[rseymorejr]

Without really thinking about it, I could be considered "Native American".

My family left England and arrived at New Castle in what we now call Delaware in The United States in about 1630.

I need help, how long does One's Family have to be in a given area to be considered "Native"?

Judging by how many people want to be called African American, I would say a pretty long time

 

[Vile Shadow]

Judging by how many people want to be called African American, I would say a pretty long time

Does someone who has one parent who is actually from Germany have more right to call himself a German-American than does someone calling himself an African-American who may be about 6 generations removed from Africa?

 

[CypherPunk]

In Maryland I suppose we allowed to indicate whatever race we most closely identify with that day, kind of like the bathrooms.

Now, I am off for some Sardi's rotisserie before my tee time.

 

[rseymorejr]

Does someone who has one parent who is actually from Germany have more right to call himself a German-American than does someone calling himself an African-American who may be about 6 generations removed from Africa?

The funny thing is I have known a couple people who truly are "African Americans" and they're whiter than I am!

 

[montoya32]

if i remember correctly, i have always had to indicate my race when purchasing a regulated firearm.

They added the "hispanic/non-hispanic" section. Always had to indicate "asian, white, african-american..."

 

[Jimdick2949]

They are tightening one screw at a time & a little bit at a time.

 

[Pinecone]

Sad to tell you this, but Native American is a ethnic group not a race.

Same with Hispanic.

However, to be proper Hispanic means of the Hispanola peninsula. Which is Spain, Portugal, and maybe Basque.

Most people from Latin America are NOT from Hispanola (Hispanic). They are actually Native American (indigenous people in the Americas when the Europeans arrived).

 

[Pinecone]

Does someone who has one parent who is actually from Germany have more right to call himself a German-American than does someone calling himself an African-American who may be about 6 generations removed from Africa?

6 generations??? You mean their family did not come over until around the late 1940s/early 1950s??????

 

[BlackBart]

Judging by how many people want to be called African American, I would say a pretty long time

Jessie invented that silly assed term for his flock that probably couldn't find Africa on a globe. To me they're Americans that happen to be black or just plain ole blacks. Outside of that I couldn't care less.

 

[eventhorizon]

What would Obama put?

"Choom Gang" ?

 

[traveller]

Same with Hispanic.

However, to be proper Hispanic means of the Hispanola peninsula. Which is Spain, Portugal, and maybe Basque.

Most people from Latin America are NOT from Hispanola (Hispanic). They are actually Native American (indigenous people in the Americas when the Europeans arrived).

That is not how OMB defines it:


“Hispanic or Latino” refers to
a person of Cuban, Mexican,
Puerto Rican, South or Central
American, or other Spanish
culture or origin regardless of
race.

 

[Mr H]

6 generations??? You mean their family did not come over until around the late 1940s/early 1950s??????

12 years per generation???!!

 

[Haides]

12 years per generation???!!

These days... Probably.

 

[Vile Shadow]

Had I known that was the math, I would have said more like 12 generations.

 

[drthv8r]

It's also on the 4473. I'm both "White" and "not Hispanic or Latino".

Yeah and that ticks me off to no end! If you're white you aren't hispanic or latino. No other nationality has to check two different boxes except if you're white.

 

[Mr H]

These days... Probably.

In Bodymore, yeah....

 

[NY Transplant]

I'm a non-practicing Hispanic. Does that mean that I have to check the "Not Hispanic or Latino" box on the 4473?

 

[Mr H]

I get confused, because I've been granted "Honorary Azn" status in the golf world...

Does that carry over?

 

[Pinecone]

That is not how OMB defines it:


“Hispanic or Latino” refers to
a person of Cuban, Mexican,
Puerto Rican, South or Central
American, or other Spanish
culture or origin regardless of
race.

Exactly. How they define it, does not match reality.

 

[gamer_jim]

For a president of mixed race, who campaigned on fighting racism, why does he insist on bringing up race at every opportunity and setting policy for his agencies?