MY CARRY PERMIT IS DENIED!!!

[Mooseman]

As suspected, mine arrived today. It was postmarked 5/10. Sure did get here fast. Hooligan road trip to the appeals board hearing?

 

[CAS_Shooter]

Got my letter today, as well. Unfortunately, while Legg provided the state with the only good and substantial reason that should be needed, the appeals court decided the 2nd amendment was not applicable to the citizens of Maryland. I would love to respond with G&S, but I do not have a business and I have not received documented death threats recently, so I am sure that my good and substantial reason to assure my safety and the safety of my family would fall on deaf ears.

The only consolation is that, also in today's mail, I received my C&R FFL. I would have rather had the permit, but I take my positives when I can get them.

 

[Big Dog]

I received mine today as well. This is troubling in many ways but also in that they held them during appeal to 4th Circuit but will not hold them for the en banc appeal and the appeal to SCOTUS, both of which will likely happen. If they deny us then we have to admit on any other application we have been denied. If this is overturned then will we have to pay again and reapply? I would like the denial letter to say that the only reason we were denied is the G&S and without that requirement we are fully able to carry.

I wonder how the liberals in this state would react if a woman had to show G&S reason before she could get an abortion and had to pay a fee to have her medical records checked to verify...

Has MSI provided any guidance on how to proceed? I know this attorney is looking for people who were denied.

http://www.ammoland.com/2010/07/denied-a-md-firearms-carry-permit/#axzz2T0fIIhVt

 

[hogrider]

IMO, this is being done in retribution, because MSI filed a lawsuit against the MSP.

Instead of the MSP taking care of regulated paperwork, now they are spending their

time returning carry applications.

Actions have consequences.

 

[Big Dog]

Perhaps along with the Bill of Rights we should send a copy of The Declaration of Rights from the Maryland Constitution. It clearly states that the US Constitution shall be the Supreme Law of the State.

Art. 2. The Constitution of the United States, and the Laws made, or which shall be made, in pursuance thereof, and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, are, and shall be the Supreme Law of the State; and the Judges of this State, and all the People of this State, are, and shall be bound thereby; anything in the Constitution or Law of this State to the contrary notwithstanding.

 

[sgt23preston]

Sgt Preston here...

So let me see if I have the timetable right..?

First MSI sues the Md State Police over late approvals...

Then almost immediately, the "denials" start show up in our mailboxes..?

Hmmmm, I wonder if there is a hidden message somewhere..?

Nah it couldn't be, it must be just a coincidence...

 

[teratos]

Sgt Preston here...

So let me see if I have the timetable right..?

First MSI sues the Md State Police over late approvals...

Then almost immediately, the "denials" start show up in our mailboxes..?

Hmmmm, I wonder if there is a hidden message somewhere..?

Nah it couldn't be, it must be just a coincidence...

Lawsuit filed just yesterday. Who knows if they knew in advance. We live in interesting times.

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

Lawsuit filed just yesterday. Who knows if they knew in advance. We live in interesting times.

Maybe it took them 7 weeks to process the letters. Sound like a familiar number?

 

[yellowsled]

Just got mine too. I'm am gonna send a picture of my kids and state that is substantial enough and request the board.

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

Just got mine too. I'm am gonna send a picture of my kids and state that is substantial enough and request the board.

Please do. And point out in all sincerity that it's for the children. Also please add that they are worth more than money, then ask them if they feel the same about their children. If I had one in the system, I would. Am curious how they respond. Then I know what I would do next...

 

[sgt23preston]

Lawsuit filed just yesterday. Who knows if they knew in advance. We live in interesting times.

Teratos, my guess is that they DID find out in advance that it was in the works & MOM was pissed...

It's a poker play, "I've seen what you have" & (now since I hold all the cards) "I'll call"...

 

[hogrider]

Lawsuit filed just yesterday. Who knows if they knew in advance. We live in interesting times.

These rejection letters were already written, and then it took about 10 minutes

to date all 350 of them.

Just wait and watch...

 

[hodgepodge]

Got my letter! Not unexpected.

Is "I want the option." good and substantial?

 

[fightinbluhen51]

CA4 denied an en banc rehearing...IL is squeezed into a box facing impass (and non permitted carry) or appeal to SCOTUS.

I'm not shocked by this choice from the state at all. I say, let them deny y'all and then with Moore and perhaps a Woollard GVR'd in hand, bring another suit with damages (because you now have them).

Bone headed move by the state.

 

[teratos]

Everyone should appeal to the review board. They have to hear it in 30 days. Overwhelm them.

 

[BUFF7MM]

Everyone should appeal to the review board. They have to hear it in 30 days. Overwhelm them.

At the top of my to do list.

 

[hogrider]

Ya think MSI will do two lawsuits at the same time...

I highly doubt it...

maybe the NRA or Gura or SAF will take it

 

[yellowsled]

Everyone should appeal to the review board. They have to hear it in 30 days. Overwhelm them.

I plan to...

 

[TopShelf]

was there an appeal made to the 4th court decision? If not, I would say MSP is just complying with that ruling. I don't like the courts decision, but am not seeing where MSP is to blame here. Maybe I am missing something?
As for the fees, I recall that they were up front about not refunding the money. We may not like it, but knew that would be the case.
Don't get me wrong - I am not happy to see this happening...

 

[hogrider]

Everyone should appeal to the review board. They have to hear it in 30 days. Overwhelm them.

I am right there with you...but can we wait a few days to see how many of the 350 or so are returned...

if they are only doing a dozen or so every couple of weeks, appealing en mass won't have the desired impact of overwhelming them

Patrick...please chime in any time you want...