MSP Got one... Instructor caught cutting corners, permits invalidated.

[Tower43]

Thanks. Want to make sure I cover these better on my own so I can understand them better and go over them with my wife and kids.

For firearms law in MD, see https://www.2amaryland.org/legislative/2022/MARYLAND_GUN_LAWS_2022.pdf

Thanks @Jaybeez

Thanks for posting that... it's a good consolidation!

 

[Garet Jax]

Thanks for posting that... it's a good consolidation!

Agree 100%. I started to do exactly this consolidation for my own benefit and I found the task a little overwhelming because I was more or less starting from scratch so I was learning a lot as I went. @Jaybeez posted this in link in one of my threads and it is exactly what I wanted to achieve.

 

[miles71]

Thanks. Want to make sure I cover these better on my own so I can understand them better and go over them with my wife and kids.

For firearms law in MD, see https://www.2amaryland.org/legislative/2022/MARYLAND_GUN_LAWS_2022.pdf

Thanks @Jaybeez

I give this to every student I teach, great to have everything in one place.

TD

 

[Atlasarmory]

My buddy's permit was just revoked due to the instructor getting caught running short classes.

 

[Bertfish]

My buddy's permit was just revoked due to the instructor getting caught running short classes.

Which instructor?

And did your friend know it was shortchanged?

 

[Atlasarmory]

I searched the instructors name and they are mentioned in some threads. Given I have this as second hand information information I don't feel comfortable naming them directly. But my buddy was contacted by the MSP a few days after the instructor informed his recent customers he was busted. As far as did my friend know the class was short ? Given the repercussions of all this I again am reluctant to comment.

Take away from my non post post is if something doesn't seem right walk away find another instructor. Right or wrong constitutionally MSP is definitely taking this seriously.

 

[Kharn]

I searched the instructors name and they are mentioned in some threads. Given I have this as second hand information information I don't feel comfortable naming them directly. But my buddy was contacted by the MSP a few days after the instructor informed his recent customers he was busted. As far as did my friend know the class was short ? Given the repercussions of all this I again am reluctant to comment.

Take away from my non post post is if something doesn't seem right walk away find another instructor. Right or wrong constitutionally MSP is definitely taking this seriously.

I wonder what court precedent is on an unaware person's constitutional rights being affected by the improper actions of a third party.

 

[outrider58]

I wonder what court precedent is on an unaware person's constitutional rights being affected by the improper actions of a third party.

MSP has proven time and time again, they can interpret law any way they choose.

 

[RRomig]

I wonder what court precedent is on an unaware person's constitutional rights being affected by the improper actions of a third party.

As stated before there is a form you sign stating hours of class and shooting score. I truly hope this mandatory training gets a work over or totally dropped in court. Are there any current lawsuits addressing the training in Md

 

[teratos]

I wonder what court precedent is on an unaware person's constitutional rights being affected by the improper actions of a third party.

The law says 16 hours. It’s not ambiguous. Unless you are an idiot, you know corners were cut. If you don’t demand your 16 hours, you are complicit.

Unless YOUR class really was 16 hours.

 

[Inigoes]

I wonder what court precedent is on an unaware person's constitutional rights being affected by the improper actions of a third party.

See the thread "United State v. Price" in the national 2A forum.

 

[Bertfish]

The law says 16 hours. It’s not ambiguous. Unless you are an idiot, you know corners were cut. If you don’t demand your 16 hours, you are complicit.

Unless YOUR class really was 16 hours.

Last line is important

They should only ve able to invalidate what they can prove

 

[teratos]

Last line is important

They should only ve able to invalidate what they can prove

Agree.

 

[LuckyShot]

The new gun owners in my class made sure we reached the 16 hours with all the damn what if questions.

 

[Mark75H]

The new gun owners in my class made sure we reached the 16 hours with all the damn what if questions.

I get a ton of what ifs from old gun owners.

Everyone who doesn't stay on top of things has all these questions that are general knowledge here and at the better seminars like Andrew Branca

 

[teratos]

I get a ton of what ifs from old gun owners.

Everyone who doesn't stay on top of things has all these questions that are general knowledge here and at the better seminars like Andrew Branca

We “regulars” take our knowledge for granted.

 

[swinokur]

But how did we obtain it?


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[BigWilly]

But how did we obtain it?


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From the interwebz of course. Or from someone who recently stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

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[Doctor_M]

I'm a slacker... #426.

 

[4g64loser]

From the interwebz of course. Or from someone who recently stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

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Holiday inn express? You need to experience life on the wild side of shirt term lodgings. The La Quinta in glen dirty has great amenities, such as hot and cold running hookers. And thieves on standby to unload your vehicle overnight. We call it the La Cunta inn. And refuse to let work put us up there.