Just got form 1 disapproved due to sb281

[OrbitalEllipses]

So are they just going to take our pre-October SBRs when they ultimately decide they're not legal?

 

[sleev-les]

So are they just going to take our pre-October SBRs when they ultimately decide they're not legal?

I didn't know how to take that response. The fact that MSP can't provide a solid answer is disturbing. There is no reason that an SBR should not be legal.

 

[SWO Daddy]

Has anyone had any problems with the ATF giving them grief over 77r legibility? I have access to a $30k machine for scanning and the serial number for my lower is still incredibly hard to make out. I have a purchse order, but that doesn't include a serial number. Ahhh....so frustrating.

 

[sleev-les]

Has anyone had any problems with the ATF giving them grief over 77r legibility? I have access to a $30k machine for scanning and the serial number for my lower is still incredibly hard to make out. I have a purchse order, but that doesn't include a serial number. Ahhh....so frustrating.

Still don't think they will accept a purchase order after todays conversation. Focus was on the handgun roster and how MD defines the SBR. My purchase order does have the serial number on it though....

 

[SWO Daddy]

Still don't think they will accept a purchase order after todays conversation. Focus was on the handgun roster and how MD defines the SBR. My purchase order does have the serial number on it though....

I just read that after posting, thanks. Quite disturbing - doesn't look like the dust is anywhere near settled on this.

 

[fire_medic]

How is this with SBR's that would meet the >29 AOL on a
pre 10/1 lower? If I understand correctly if it meets the
>29 AOL then it would be approved. Thinking of contacting
MSP about obtaining a better copy of the 77r.

 

[sleev-les]

How is this with SBR's that would meet the >29 AOL on a
pre 10/1 lower? If I understand correctly if it meets the
>29 AOL then it would be approved. Thinking of contacting
MSP about obtaining a better copy of the 77r.

The one I'm applying for is 31" OAL. Its running into the same problem as under 29" OAL guns. Without clear guidance from MSP, ATF does not want to approve the Form 1 SBR's so that they don't risk putting us at odds with Marylands law. They are trying to understand as we are and if they can't get a straight answer, you know we won't.. Which is currently been the case.

 

[CrawfishStu]

The moving target aspect of this is what is so frustrating. You submit paperwork 8 months ago for something that has been commonly done. They change the laws, the process, and even the type of weapon while your paperwork is submitted.

They can basically change the rules on the fly. Just another great way way to limit what you can own/build.

 

[pwoolford]

Maybe instead of jerking us all around MSP should go research how much crime has ever been committed by someone with a legal SBR. I was going to submit paper form 1's but I guess I'll wait.

 

[CrawfishStu]

If it is over 29" and has a matching pistol/sbr model on the roster, it should breeze through. My AR and ACR stamps were approved with no issues.

 

[sleev-les]

If it is over 29" and has a matching pistol/sbr model on the roster, it should breeze through. My AR and ACR stamps were approved with no issues.

May be a stupid question, but how do I find that out?

 

[CrawfishStu]

https://www.mdsp.org/Organization/S...Division/MainLicensingPage/HandgunRoster.aspx

 

[CrawfishStu]

What are the specs on what you are trying to get approved?

 

[sleev-les]

Its a Black Rain FALLOUT15 Lower

 

[CrawfishStu]

What barrel length are you going for and just as a .223/300?

 

[sleev-les]

What barrel length are you going for and just as a .223/300?

11.3" barrel, 300blk

 

[CrawfishStu]

You should be over 29 easily. They approved my 29" RRA SBR. I would say good to go.

 

[sleev-les]

Its 31" OAL based off my calcs.. I was just talking to Mr. Cook yesterday and he brought up concern with the handgun roster. I did get something in writing from Cpl Edwards stating I would have to submit to the handgun roster if I sold the gun, but not for ATF approval.

 

[CrawfishStu]

Could you pm me his email. I need to get something similar in writing for mine that was turned down.

 

[BALBZ]

I would love to have that email also.