Is the HQL still required to purchase handguns?

[Tony126]

I’m confused about the whole HQL Situation since the Court of Appeals has ruled the HQL is unconstitutional under the second amendment. Does that mean you don’t need to have an HQL to purchase a handgun in the state of Maryland. Since I don’t have my HQL yet?

 

[Rickman]

Yes, for now.

MSP Statement on HQL

www.mdshooters.com

 

[Mightydog]

Decision goes into effect 21 days after the court’s ruling. But of course MSP decided to ignore the ruling.

 

[dblas]

Decision goes into effect 21 days after the court’s ruling. But of course MSP decided to ignore the ruling.

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They haven't ignored anything, if the State request an appeal the en Banc of the 4th Circuit, then all bets are off and the 21 days goes by the wayside until the appeal is acted on.

 

[fabsroman]

They haven't ignored anything, if the State request an appeal the en Banc of the 4th Circuit, then all bets are off and the 21 days goes by the wayside until the appeal is acted on.

Exactly what I was going to say after reading his post.

Imagine if MSP wrote that the HQL is only required for another 21 days UNLESS the State requests an en banc review. I guarantee that plenty of people would stop reading/comprehending from UNLESS on.

I sit here wondering how hard the State wants to push this matter. En Bank, Writ of Certiori to SCOTUS? Imagine an opinion from SCOTUS in our favor on the HQL.

I'm still waiting patiently to buy the 3 handguns I regret not buying back in 2013.

 

[Harrys]

Maybe by next year I have a feeling it will go to SCOTUS unless the blue devils converse with Wes Moreless and tell him not to challenge the ruling and the if the 4th circuit does not issue a mandate.

 

[whistlersmother]

Unfortunately, in my opinion, the HQL is not going away. Regardless of this decision, 4CA will not render an en banc decision until SCOTUS flips anti-2A. It will sit on it for decades if necessary.

And yes, I do donate money to the MSI HQL collection can.

 

[dblas]

Maybe by next year I have a feeling it will go to SCOTUS unless the blue devils converse with Wes Moreless and tell him not to challenge the ruling and the if the 4th circuit does not issue a mandate.

The 4th Circuit has already issued it's mandate, it takes affect 21 days after the ruling was published. Unless the State requests En Banc.
There is nothing more for the 4th Circuit to do unless there is a request from the State in 14 days.

It really is that simple.

 

[dblas]

Unfortunately, in my opinion, the HQL is not going away. Regardless of this decision, 4CA will not render an en banc decision until SCOTUS flips anti-2A. It will sit on it for decades if necessary.

I doubt the 4th Circuit will sit on a case for multiple years without gaining the attention of SCOTUS and being reminded by them of the due process clause of the Constitution (like the did to the 2nd).

And yes, I do donate money to the MSI HQL collection can.

More people should.

 

[Worsley]

The 4th Circuit has already issued it's mandate, it takes affect 21 days after the ruling was published. Unless the State requests En Banc.
There is nothing more for the 4th Circuit to do unless there is a request from the State in 14 days.

It really is that simple.

Thread over.

 

[Art3]

Thread over.

Doubt it.

 

[rseymorejr]

Could be anywhere between 2 weeks and next year
Depending on what that prick in Annapolis decides to do

 

[dblas]

Could be anywhere between 2 weeks and next year
Depending on what that prick in Annapolis decides to do

We'll know in 12 days, what to expect, and you can expect the State to take the whole 14 days to make their decision and submit an En Banc request.
I'll be happy when the morning of Dec 6 comes and there hasn't been a request or appeal submitted. Until then, it's still 50/50.

 

[Defense Initiative]

I teach HQL classes, and because my costs are below average rates, I allow the student to do the application on their own. Recently, I had a student who had a few questions about the process, and it got me thinking about what someone has to go through to obtain an HQL. The training is essential. Otherwise, I wouldn't be doing it; however, the application fee, waiting period for approval, and the process as a whole seems unfair to the Maryland taxpayer.

 

[GTOGUNNER]

I teach HQL classes, and because my costs are below average rates, I allow the student to do the application on their own. Recently, I had a student who had a few questions about the process, and it got me thinking about what someone has to go through to obtain an HQL. The training is essential. Otherwise, I wouldn't be doing it; however, the application fee, waiting period for approval, and the process as a whole seems unfair to the Maryland taxpayer.

Hunter Safety training in Maryland is free.

 

[rseymorejr]

I teach HQL classes, and because my costs are below average rates, I allow the student to do the application on their own. Recently, I had a student who had a few questions about the process, and it got me thinking about what someone has to go through to obtain an HQL. The training is essential. Otherwise, I wouldn't be doing it; however, the application fee, waiting period for approval, and the process as a whole seems unfair to the Maryland taxpayer.

Any and all training is great. State mandated training is complete ********

 

[dblas]

I teach HQL classes, and because my costs are below average rates, I allow the student to do the application on their own. Recently, I had a student who had a few questions about the process, and it got me thinking about what someone has to go through to obtain an HQL. The training is essential. Otherwise, I wouldn't be doing it; however, the application fee, waiting period for approval, and the process as a whole seems unfair to the Maryland taxpayer.

If you think State Mandated training is requirement to own a firearm, you are a part of the problem.

 

[rbird7282]

Any and all training is great. State mandated training is complete ********

THIS.


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[Sundazes]

Any and all training is great. State mandated training is complete ********

Yup

 

[Slhaney]

Hunter Safety training in Maryland is free.

That is correct and that was my " get out of training free card" for my HQL when they first came out. Actually a hunters safety course or equivalent from any state can be used to exempt you from the HQL training requirement.