If the National Guard is the "Last Resort" how does G&S fit into the equation?

[Semper Noctem]

It doesn't matter that guns did not play a big role in the riots.

Yet...

 

[Muleskinner]

These riots and associated issues will be another reason why the administration WONT touch the issue of the 2A. Bigger fish to fry, more important issues need to be addressed first, etc., etc..

That will be the excuse some here on these forums give..."Don't bother Hogan now, he's too busy"...I can see the posts now....proving that there are many sheep amongst us..

Why is it that when liberals exploit a crisis they get their way but we are chastised by our own when we consider doing the same thing??

 

[Z_Man]

The Dems are also going to use this as a platform to push for more gun control. They probably won't be successful, but they'll try. It doesn't matter that guns did not play a big role in the riots. They do not want people to be able to defend themselves.

This is exactly the wrong issue to use to bring up allowing citizens to carry. the people in charge DO NOT CARE about the average individuals personal safety or freedoms.

If anything this incident will be used to FURTHER RESTRICT gun rights for your typical citizens.

I hope with the wonderful HD footage, they will be able to identify and charge everyone who committed criminal acts during the protest, and when that protest deteriorated into an all out riot.

the best solution when dealing with a riot is to GET AWAY immediately.

sadly there was no "right thing to do" for the mayor, however she F'd this up completely. you have people complaining about police brutality. then, when riots show up, you have people wondering where the police are. it is a NO win situation.

 

[cantstop]

And Frosh has been conspicuously absent in all of this...

It's not like it has turned into a lawless Wild West scenario now has it?

 

[Muleskinner]

After seeing attempted murder of police officers yesterday afternoon with no weapons being drawn, let alone used.....I doubt self defense will ever be a good enough reason..........I saw at least 20 thugs that should have been shot on the spot.....

I didn't see the video but it is possible that the officers were not armed. My son in law is BCoPD...They recently had riot and crowd control training and were told that if they were ever deployed to a situation such as this, their service weapons would NOT be taken with them. I don't know if the city has the same policy.

 

[cantstop]

I didn't see the video but it is possible that the officers were not armed. My son in law is BCoPD...They recently had riot and crowd control training and were told that if they were ever deployed to a situation such as this, their service weapons would NOT be taken with them. I don't know if the city has the same policy.

"Stop! Or I shall yell 'Stop!' again!"

I don't see the point unless there are snipers deployed as backup.

 

[Twanger]

I throw this solidly at the feet of Martin O'Malley.
He disarmed all Marylanders, which completely enables rampant thug behavior like we've seen.
There's a reason why you don't see rioting in cities and states with strong Second Amendment support.
The thugs know they'd be shot.

 

[danb]

Well, if there is an angry mob coming my way i dont think a mere pistol will be very effective. No way I'd travel with just a pistol. I plan to keep out of the city for a while. Maybe forever.

Fortunately Doogie said LGOC is legal. If i am arrested, maybe hel'll even take my case now.

BTW, carry permits or not for peple like me because I have the choice to stay out of the city. carry permits are for the residents of the city who have no choice but to protect themselves against the mobs. we should be so lucky that they start to realize that.

 

[eruby]

Well, if there is an angry mob coming my way i dont think a mere pistol will be very effective. No way I'd travel with just a pistol.

Fortunately Doogie said LGOC is legal. If i am arrested, maybe hel'll even take my case now.

I've no experience with angry mobs, but a couple of times breaking the nose of one guy disbursed a group of angry at me frat boys.

If you "turn one guys head into a canoe", an angry mob may well turn tail. But yeah, a rifle with several bona-fide hi-cap mags is preferred.

 

[dblas]

The Dems are also going to use this as a platform to push for more gun control. They probably won't be successful, but they'll try. It doesn't matter that guns did not play a big role in the riots. They do not want people to be able to defend themselves.

Perhaps it's time we take a page out of their playbook "and not let a good crisis go to waste"?

 

[Boondock Saint]

I've no experience with angry mobs, but a couple of times breaking the nose of one guy disbursed a group of angry at me frat boys.

If you "turn one guys head into a canoe", an angry mob may well turn tail. But yeah, a rifle with several bona-fide hi-cap mags is preferred.

 

[-Z/28-]

FWIW, the National Guard isn't the last resort. The next step is call the Feds and the get the regular Army/Marines in town.

 

[Gryphon]

"Stop! Or I shall yell 'Stop!' again!"

I don't see the point unless there are snipers deployed as backup.

That's funny coming from "Cantstop"

 

[Schwabe]

I saw nothing that would make me think the police was overwhelmed. I lived in Europe for 28 years, I have seen plenty of riots and anarchist demonstartions. Every May 1st is party time for them to celebrate Labor Day. People in Berlin rented out the second floor appartments for people to come and watch the rioters in action from a save window sill.

The police I saw was told to stand down, if you actually engage and club a few stuff ends abruptly. 27 arrests tells me that the police did not engage from Mondawin Mall to stores looted in Fells Point tells me the Police did not engage. Her excuse is that she did not want to incite anymore violence ... because let's face it they are all innocent and disadvantaged inner city thugs ....

 

[daggo66]

They aren't going to show you that guns save lives!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...d-from-mob-by-store-owner-armed-with-shotgun/

 

[danb]

I saw nothing that would make me think the police was overwhelmed. I lived in Europe for 28 years, I have seen plenty of riots and anarchist demonstartions. Every May 1st is party time for them to celebrate Labor Day. People in Berlin rented out the second floor appartments for people to come and watch the rioters in action from a save window sill.

The police I saw was told to stand down, if you actually engage and club a few stuff ends abruptly. 27 arrests tells me that the police did not engage from Mondawin Mall to stores looted in Fells Point tells me the Police did not engage. Her excuse is that she did not want to incite anymore violence ... because let's face it they are all innocent and disadvantaged inner city thugs ....

The police showed remarkable restraint. On the one hand I agree the police could have been more confrontational and ended it earlier. on the other hand now the whole city see what the police are dealing with. Burning, looting, cutting fire hoses. it was pretty ridiculous.

I am sure they will try this again.

 

[Schwabe]

I was not talking about the police's performance. Nobody should have to stand there without proper gear and just take it. To me it is clear that they were told to stand down and not engage. It was not an issue of police being overpowered, that is the excuse the Mayor, chief of police and cinty council will use. If you have even 20 officers with shields and batons in lock step engage crowds of highschoolers they will dispear quickly.

 

[Muleskinner]

Perhaps it's time we take a page out of their playbook "and not let a good crisis go to waste"?

Agree 1000%...good luck trying to convince the apologists and sheep that are supposedly leading our cause...It's almost like they don't want a "Shall Issue" law because if that happened their 15 minutes of fame would be over...

 

[Muleskinner]

They aren't going to show you that guns save lives!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...d-from-mob-by-store-owner-armed-with-shotgun/

this probably will have no affect on his anti 2A stance..

 

[Traveler]

If you "turn one guys head into a canoe", an angry mob may well turn tail. But yeah, a rifle with several bona-fide standard mags is preferred.

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