HQL It wasn't that hard

[ShallNotInfringe]

Today yes but in the spirit of a slippery slope, the HQL is a "pathway to ownership" and the rules can be altered at the whim of MDLEG. In the future, could a suspension of a HQL make someone a prohibited person? Based on the past actions of Maryland lawmakers, it's difficult to accept things on face value and believe that they won't get changed for their agenda.

Think of the HQL as a train ticket and grabbers like DeMarco and Frosh are the conductors. The exact destination is unknown.

Agreed. It was the original wording you had that struck a nerve. It's all good.

Recently someone's else posited that if you were in a traffic stop and found to be in possession of a handgun with no HQL, things could be bad. Which is pure bs.

The whole HQL thing is bad enough... It definitely gets the camels nose under the tent...

 

[johnlax38]

Got my HQL this month as well. I wish that little card trumped the paper work I had to fill out last night to start my 8 day wait period. I'd be OK with HQL if it streamlined the process. But no :|

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[EL1227]

And your prints go in the CRIMINAL database.

It's not hard to tie all purchases together. With or without an HQL.

True, but HQL 'enhances' their ability to do so. SB281 established funding and a database to track them via the HQL process. Prior, it was all a manual process as evidenced by the backlog (that was the MSP excuse, remember ?)

What is the timeframe between submission with an HQL and receipt vs. the timeframe of the old 7-day 'not disapproved' process ? I would venture a guess that it's 'instantaneous' except that they still enforce that 'cooling off period' BS.

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

Got my HQL this month as well. I wish that little card trumped the paper work I had to fill out last night to start my 8 day wait period. I'd be OK with HQL if it streamlined the process. But no :|

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Can you post or PM the number range to the thousand/hundred please? For example: 4,2XX or 6,4XX. Not your number just the range.

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

True, but HQL 'enhances' their ability to do so. SB281 established funding and a database to track them via the HQL process. Prior, it was all a manual process as evidenced by the backlog (that was the MSP excuse, remember ?)

What is the timeframe between submission with an HQL and receipt vs. the timeframe of the old 7-day 'not disapproved' process ? I would venture a guess that it's 'instantaneous' except that they still enforce that 'cooling off period' BS.

The way I understand it, they had a database of regulated firearm purchases prior to SB281 and the HQL. Not true?

I believe it's about 3 days now. There's a fair number of reasons for that, but I posit the leading reason is for the court case this month.

 

[Ironsighter]

Desensitization. We are becoming so used to onerous requirements in Maryland that we think of them as "Not that hard." Meanwhile, I went with a Virginia resident to Green Top and she picked out a really nice revolver and walked out fifteen minutes later after an instant check having shown only her drivers license. That is how it should be.

I also note the work was done by a store employee as part of his normal duties. In Maryland, multiple steps, from HQL to the check itself, have to be done by a state bureaucracy. No wonder our taxes and fees are so high.

I can't wait for the next "easy" step when they apply it to long guns. They will say "after all, the process is already set up and thousands of Marylanders found it easy with which to comply."

But it isn't. Compare buying a handgun in MD with doing it as a Virginia resident and you see the true cost in time, money...and liberty.

The frog is being boiled a few comfortable degrees at a time.

 

[johnlax38]

Can you post or PM the number range to the thousand/hundred please? For example: 4,2XX or 6,4XX. Not your number just the range.

3XX went active on the 6th

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[Gbh]

3XX went active on the 6th

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How many total digits? Ie 300, 3000 or 30,000

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

3XX went active on the 6th

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Really? Wow. Way less than I estimated above. So as of 1/6 there were less than 400 HQL's issued? There must be a whole lotta multiple purchasers, C&R's or exempted people making up that regulated purchase app count.

Am being totally facetious, btw, bets it's in the upper 3,XXX range. Close to the app count.

 

[teratos]

Really? Wow. Way less than I estimated above. So as of 1/6 there were less than 400 HQL's issued? There must be a whole lotta multiple purchasers, C&R's or exempted people making up that regulated purchase app count.

I am also surprised by that number.

I spoke with at least 3 people this week who told me they were looking to buy their first handgun. When I told them what they had to do for their HQL, you could see by their body language it wasn't going to happen.

 

[johnlax38]

0003XX

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[CrazySanMan]

Wow, if ShallNotInfringe is correct the state expected to have 200 times as many HQL's as they actually have.

 

[CarlosM]

They restarted the numbers. It looks like at the beginning of the year they go back to 1.

 

[Gbh]

They restarted the numbers. It looks like at the beginning of the year they go back to 1.

That could explain the person last night at a gun shop that just received his and told me it was in the 100 range.

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

Wow, if ShallNotInfringe is correct the state expected to have 200 times as many HQL's as they actually have.

With the restart on 1/1/14, looks like they are gonna be about 6-7 times low.

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2013RS/fnotes/bil_0001/sb0281.pdf

Page 21 top of page Exhibit 2.

$3,299,000/$50 per HQL = 65,980 HQL's

 

[BUFF7MM]

I was last year in mid November and my number is mid 2200's

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

I was last year in mid November and my number is mid 2200's

Ok, so I am gaining confidence that the app count is a pretty good indicator of the HQL issue count,

 

[BUFF7MM]

Ok, so I am gaining confidence that the app count is a pretty good indicator of the HQL issue count,

It definately has the year in the number
HQL-2013-0022XX

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

To stay on track, they should be issuing on average just over 7,000 HQL's per month. (65,980/9) There's only 9 months in FY 2014 wrt this budget item. Guess they expected a surge due to its newness.

 

[Gbh]

To stay on track, they should be issuing on average just over 7,000 HQL's per month. (65,980/9) There's only 9 months in FY 2014 wrt this budget item. Guess they expected a surge due to its newness.

Sounds like Obamacare