moojersey
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Good thread, nice and civil. I'm sorry, but whether LEO's will admit to it or not profiling is common practice. Kudos to the LEO's in this thread who really don't practice profiling.
Good thread, nice and civil. I'm sorry, but whether LEO's will admit to it or not profiling is common practice. Kudos to the LEO's in this thread who really don't practice profiling.
Something else to consider, and I know that it isn't right but it is what it is, is whether or not you physically appear to be the redneck gun owner stereotype.
Take my son for example. These days he's cultivating this counter-culture image - big bushy beard, big tat on his forearm (I didn't really approve of the placement of that one, but it's his body, right?) and he clothes himself in Vans shoes, jeans, t-shirts and plaid flannel button-downs.
I see it all the time when we are in social settings with people who don't know him well. They assume certain attitudes and behaviors of him, simply based on his appearance, when in fact he isn't anything like what people expect him to be. He's intelligent, exceedingly polite, and is a very friendly amicable person.
When he loses the beard and dresses differently, he almost has movie star good looks, but the truth of it is, you get pre-judged based on how you look. I want him to be himself, but man, I wish he'd lose the Duck Dynasty look because his interactions with people would be a lot different. I shudder to think what it might go like if he's ever pulled over because the officer is going to assume he's a punk with an attitude.
My appearance, on the other hand, is nothing like that. I've been clean cut and clean shaven since I joined (and subsequently left in 1999) the Army in 1989, so any time I've been pulled over, my experience has never been negative.
If it makes you feel better, when I was a teen I had a big orange mohawk.
And it too was perfect..If it makes you feel better, when I was a teen I had a big orange mohawk.
And it too was perfect..
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There is a difference between profiling which includes detaining people who fit a "profile" solely and assuming that they are involved in criminal activity, and finding RAS from a person based on several indicators which includes but not limited to appearance, demeanor, fidgeting, nervousness, sweating, visible pulse, darting eyes, looking for an escape route, changing story, time of day and location, etc etc. That's how you build your suspicion based on those and thousands of other indicators, not one singular profile such as race our affiliation alone.Good thread, nice and civil. I'm sorry, but whether LEO's will admit to it or not profiling is common practice. Kudos to the LEO's in this thread who really don't practice profiling.
I would have figured him more as the Ferris Bueller type
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Calling the K-9 after you answered 'no' to a search seems like an old trick to bypass the lack of consent and create a probable cause that legally did not exist. A friend allerted me to this trick more than a decade ago after he was victim of it in another state. And they make you wait all the time in the world for the k-9 to further haras you. I would assume some lower courts would have ruled against this already. Maybe a lawyer here might know.
I thought there is a time limit of 25-30 minutes you are required to wait for a K-9 unit. If it isn't there within that time, you can pop-smoke.
Is that a internet rumor or valid?
I thought there is a time limit of 25-30 minutes you are required to wait for a K-9 unit. If it isn't there within that time, you can pop-smoke.
Is that a internet rumor or valid?
HQL I don't know.
They should not have a list of people with regulated firearms, but we all know they do.
Good thinking. I only put generic stickers on my cars- 'wag more, bark less', goat stroke, hyrule crest, etc. I avoid the apple stickers or anything that advertises a specific brand or item. Too obvious of a mark.Doesn't hurt to keep the car clean of any clues since the GOA or NRA or whatever firearms sticker on the car, when it is parked in front of your house, is advertising "guns in here." I don't want scumbags casing the neighborhood considering my place to be a good target.
You have your id and registration back. You aren't detained. Lock your door and walk away.