- Dec 20, 2013
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Just wait 'til they mandate self-driving cars (prior to the eliminate of cars in favour of enforced public transportation). It's coming.
In 2018 every car will have a rear view backup camera.
NHTSA Announces Final Rule Requiring Rear Visibility Technology
Things can go real quickly from "that's a nice idea if you want to buy it" to "now required by law of every product sold in the US."
Yup. Just like the tire pressure sensors in 07 stemming from the Ford/firestone debacle. Get enough people bitching about something and they'll force it on everyone elseIn 2018 every car will have a rear view backup camera.
NHTSA Announces Final Rule Requiring Rear Visibility Technology
Things can go real quickly from "that's a nice idea if you want to buy it" to "now required by law of every product sold in the US."
Bashing the NRA on national tv is also bad for our cause and what we fight for.
Of course there's no demand for it among current gun owners. There's no demand amongst bmx riders for training wheels either. It's more about getting someone on the fence into our community.
Why are we still discussing this? Let it DIE!
At what cost to our current freedoms? Frankly, the people that would buysmart gunsaren't people I want to have guns.
Why are we still discussing this? Let it DIE!
my thoughts on smart guns...
Don't poke a bear with a stick. It's not good for the bear and it's not good for you.
I don't know how I really feel about smart guns at this point. Do I want one with current technology? Hell no! But as technology advances, maybe to a point where there is no discernible difference, it would probably be a good thing. Competition to build a better smart gun will make this happen fast. Just think, the iPhone just came out 7 years ago, and now look at the market. The finger print reader on the smart phones are pretty accurate and instant. Fast forward just 2 years, and the technology will probably be perfected. I understand the apprehension and various arguments I myself battle with. Cost? Forced law? Hacking on current models? Reliability? Etc.... But, I also think about statistics. How many people are killed with their own gun? Most people really don't know how they would react when faced with a scenario where you shoot or don't shoot. You hesitate at the wrong time, and now the bad guy takes your gun out of your hand and then takes your life. How many guns are stolen, and then used in the commission of a crime? How many inquisitive kids pick up their Dads loaded firearm and the worst case scenario unfolds? Now imagine a gun on a charging station next to your bed all the time at the ready. But it only works with pre-set finger prints. I think having one always at the ready would be cool. I see one like that being made within the next 2-3 years. If not sooner. Hell! The charging station can double as an alarm clock. Of course, now if this model is made, I'll get a cut, right? What do you think Chad? Can we do it?
I do watch a lot of sci-fi. However, the question remains, and it is just that, a question. I am not a proponent of the smart gun. I think you have me confused as an enemy. But, as the technology improves, owning one, may bring positives we haven't really thought of. Lack of fore sight will not stop the evolution of guns. I'm just trying to see the positives. By the way, how many people do have their guns taken from them, and then used against them? By "almost no one" by your account, do you mean one or two?Almost no one is killed with their own gun. Stop watching Sci fi. If the bad guy takes your gun he can pistil whip you and kill you in a single blow to the head.
If its an ad or nd no finger print be will make any difference.
Its all BS.
The Antis are already arguing that, with zero being sold. That horse has left the barn.
I do, but do they? Remember, we're talking about people who know squat about guns, safes, gun culture, etc. At most they have a buddy who took them to the range a couple of times.
Here's my problem with that - you're equating two very different sets of people, and saying that because someone who is comfortable around guns and knows what's what with someone who doesn't, and has been told pretty much since birth that "guns are eeeeebil and will kill your children!!!111oneone" Urban yuppies, suburban soccer moms, etc.
I'm not in favor of mandating that all guns should have this technology. I wouldn't buy one. But I think it should be available. A lot of people see it as "the camel's nose under the tent" towards gun control. I turn that on its head - I see it as a potential nose under the tent towards more widespread gun ownership. "Hi, yeah, I bought this 'smartgun' to take to the range, but it's a POS and won't shoot most of the time." "Well, if you're looking for something a little more reliable, we have this Ruger SR22 over here. It's much more reliable, plus it's only about a third of what you paid for that other one. If you're worried about your kids finding it, we have this small safe over here..."
Let's make social engineering work for us, for a change. We can't keep preaching to the choir and expect to win in the legislatures.
Is it a risk? What in life isn't? But with social surveys consistently saying that gun ownership is declining as a portion of households, we need to do something to make inroads. Otherwise we'll lose elections, and thereby lose the courts through judicial appointments, and the 2A two-step will kill our rights.
I don't worry so much about MY rights... I worry about my kids' rights, and my grandkids'.
I do watch a lot of sci-fi. However, the question remains, and it is just that, a question. I am not a proponent of the smart gun. I think you have me confused as an enemy. But, as the technology improves, owning one, may bring positives we haven't really thought of. Lack of fore sight will not stop the evolution of guns. I'm just trying to see the positives. By the way, how many people do have their guns taken from them, and then used against them? By "almost no one" by your account, do you mean one or two?