Dan Bongino running for Congress, 6th District

[jpo183]

Well he should have thought out his line first before posting. And he should also be told what no one else has said yet. And that is... Such pensions are not paid solely from the gubbamint budget... If he knew what he was talking about then he would have known that the individual LEO pays a portion of his/her salary into that fund during their career. And the LEO takes a low paying position in a field where they invest their life at a low rate of pay. Much lower in many respects than that of comparable industry. This is known on the front end of the career and accepted because of the potential to receive a decent retirement pay on the back end of that career. Take that away and you will not be able to compete with private industry for the more qualified applicant.



So pay them... Pay them an anual salary that reflects the mean average life style of those who work and live in their district, The tax payers... The representative should NOT make more money than those they represent. That is how you remove the hypocrites from the Office. That is how to deal with those who have no skin in the game.

Incorrectomundo, what I said was when your pension is tied to government funding of any type you will be least likely to address any issue that could come up that would affect your funding. I am not talking about someones "401k type contributions or employer matching". Those are VERY different then a pension.

Just to make sure RoadDawg completely understands:

This past week congress voted NOT to remove their "employer contribution" to health care which is 75%. The proposal was to send all government employees (including congress) to the exchange and to remove the 75% employer contribution to the employees health insurance. Many big businesses are doing this.

It was voted "NO".

This is why I have that opinion that when you have ANY candidate that is receiving ANY TYPE of government benefits or funding that they will not cut it when the time comes.

 

[Not_an_outlaw]

So pay them... Pay them an anual salary that reflects the mean average life style of those who work and live in their district, The tax payers... The representative should NOT make more money than those they represent. That is how you remove the hypocrites from the Office. That is how to deal with those who have no skin in the game.

I don't agree. Now you won't have anyone willing to run that makes a decent salary. A good legislator who listens to constituents has almost got to do it full time to be effective. Maybe that's your point, and I probably won't disagree, but maybe ineffective legislators would be preferable. Less new laws!

 

[SS396]

Well he should have thought out his line first before posting. And he should also be told what no one else has said yet. And that is... Such pensions are not paid solely from the gubbamint budget... If he knew what he was talking about then he would have known that the individual LEO pays a portion of his/her salary into that fund during their career. And the LEO takes a low paying position in a field where they invest their life at a low rate of pay. Much lower in many respects than that of comparable industry. This is known on the front end of the career and accepted because of the potential to receive a decent retirement pay on the back end of that career. Take that away and you will not be able to compete with private industry for the more qualified applicant.

Well put. I wish I had said it this way.

 

[SS396]

Incorrectomundo, what I said was when your pension is tied to government funding of any type you will be least likely to address any issue that could come up that would affect your funding. I am not talking about someones "401k type contributions or employer matching". Those are VERY different then a pension.

Just to make sure RoadDawg completely understands:

This past week congress voted NOT to remove their "employer contribution" to health care which is 75%. The proposal was to send all government employees (including congress) to the exchange and to remove the 75% employer contribution to the employees health insurance. Many big businesses are doing this.

It was voted "NO".

This is why I have that opinion that when you have ANY candidate that is receiving ANY TYPE of government benefits or funding that they will not cut it when the time comes.

Just to clarify, many officers contribute to a deferred compensation 401k plan in addition to the retirement they will receive. Many do not want to rely solely on the retirement plan offerred by the county, and for good reason. But, we contribute to the COUNTY FUNDED retirement plan as well. I can't recall the percentage, but we do pay into the pension over the length of our careers.

I do not think the acceptance of a deserved government funded retirement (Police, Fire, or Military), negates your ability as a politician to argue against and defund ridiculous entitlement programs that have not been earned. You all know the programs I am referring to. Maybe if we shortened the ever growing list of government handouts, it wouldn't be too difficult to fund the well deserved retirements of those who protect us.

If you view well earned government pensions for public safety workers as an "entitlement" that we shouldn't have, and there are some that do, then your stance wouldn't surprise me. But keep this in mind, we aren't paid much comparitively speaking, we don't get the large bonuses often seen in the private sector, the work is dangerous and difficult, and as someone mentioned above, we must attract good applicants for the job. The security of a retirement helps to offset what we do not get. There are kids leaving college today that will start at a higher salary than I have now after 23 years with the police department. Yes, I did signed up for it, and I have no regrets.

I know some have talked of making adjustments to the retirement age since people are living longer now. I'm not necessarily opposed to common sense adjustments. This may spark more debate.

 

[Dizzy]

Hmmmm.... Let's get back on the Bongino topic.

 

[rwbow1969]

Hmmmm.... Let's get back on the Bongino topic.

This ^^^^^^^^^^

 

[outlaw613]

so what area is the congress 6 district
and how can a pikesville man help bongino

 

[mayor_quimby]

so what area is the congress 6 district
and how can a pikesville man help bongino

If I read the map that looks like blood splatter... it would be Garrett/ Allegheny/Southern part of Frederick and the western part of Moco.

http://maryland.hometownlocator.com/maps/congressional-districts.cfm

 

[pilotguy299]

If Bongino had 12 years with the USSS and no other federal time, I do not believe that he is eligible for receiving any retirement pay at this point. Under FERS he would need 20 years and age 50, or 25 years at any age. There are deferred retirement provisions, but I think the checks don't start until 60, 62, or the MRA.

Or is "any post you make about any federal law enforcement is always wrong."? lol

 

[tapeman1]

What with all the crime there now

Do tell. Has there been an uptick in the crime rate in SP?

 

[dogbone]

Bongino will be speaking at the JHU Homewood campus in Baltimore this evening (Thursday, 11/14/13) from 8:00 - 9:30 pm.

http://web.jhu.edu/announcements/students/targetpage.html?baid=44837

 

[ViperRy]

Dan is the man. I would vote for him as a presidential candidate if he were to run.

 

[safecracker]

If Bongino had 12 years with the USSS and no other federal time, I do not believe that he is eligible for receiving any retirement pay at this point. Under FERS he would need 20 years and age 50, or 25 years at any age. There are deferred retirement provisions, but I think the checks don't start until 60, 62, or the MRA.

This.

Dan walked away from his benefits and pension when he resigned from the USSS. He gets NO compensation from the government. Also, as he was driving to work the day he resigned, his wife called to tell him she was pregnant. In spite of the additional burden that he knew would place on him and his family, he did resign. And once he did resign, there was no turning back. Dan Bongino is one of the most principled individuals I have ever had the pleasure of meeting. He left behind financial security because he had a clear inside view of the Obama administration's true agenda. He did not like what he saw and sacrificed everything in order to change things. How many of you have the balls to do that???

Dan Bongino is a true and selfless patriot.