Carrying a handgun on apartment property?

[bobbygege]

I think the answer to my question is "yes", but I'm not certain.

Without a CCW, can you legally carry a handgun in the lobby and/or on the grounds of your apartment complex?

 

[lx1x]

ha...

you got money for lawyer?

 

[SRD]

Yeah,not a good idea.It's been discussed here ad nauseam.Outside is common/community property or something to that extent.

 

[BradMacc82]

Common grounds, betting no.

But if your willing to risk a few 4-203 charges, then by all means.

BTW - 4-203 charges carry a 3 year sentence, and are disqualifying misdemeanors (state/federal level).

 

[lx1x]

yes you can carry a handgun in your apt complex in a case or enclosed holster unloaded to your car to the range (or approved by regs).. thats about it

 

[Name Taken]

Doubtful.

Once the area is opened to the general public it becomes common ground.

Do you want to be a test case?

 

[matt]

Fuel- meet fire!

The part about all these laws (preaching to the choir) that amazes me- what about those individuals that fall in to the category of "no fixed address". I read the moco police blotter on a regular basis and many of those arrested are of "no fixed address". Now when does having an address become a requirement to own a firearm? If one has no fixed address (mental problems aside) and otherwise is legal to possess/own a firearm how can they be restricted to what does not exist?

And yes- the OP has been covered ad nauseum here about public common areas/apartments etc- not in this state if your a unconnected, non business owner, or have been raped two or more times... If that is even a qualifier anymore.

 

[Kman]

I guess you could, but I wouldn't.

I like guns and I'm very pro 2A, but that might creep me out a little.

 

[lx1x]

Fuel- meet fire!

The part about all these laws (preaching to the choir) that amazes me- what about those individuals that fall in to the category of "no fixed address". I read the moco police blotter on a regular basis and many of those arrested are of "no fixed address". Now when does having an address become a requirement to own a firearm? If one has no fixed address (mental problems aside) and otherwise is legal to possess/own a firearm how can they be restricted to what does not exist?

And yes- the OP has been covered ad nauseum here about public common areas/apartments etc- not in this state if your a unconnected, non business owner, or have been raped two or more times... If that is even a qualifier anymore.

it shouldnt be...

unless the said offender did something else. on a run some sort.
no drivers license... no proof of billing address.etc

 

[matt]

it shouldnt be...

unless the said offender did something else. on a run some sort.
no drivers license... no proof of billing address.etc

Assuming they are not mentally deficient, and no priors- how would they ever be in violation of a wear/carry prohibition 4-203(?) violation if "everywhere is home"?

Grasping for straws...

 

[lx1x]

Assuming they are not mentally deficient, and no priors- how would they ever be in violation of a wear/carry prohibition 4-203(?) violation if "everywhere is home"?

Grasping for straws...

without knowing the full details its hard to say what law they broke.

link an example. what are the charges etc.

 

[Semper Noctem]

I open carry around my apartment all the time...














Of course, I'm in Alexandria, VA.

 

[matt]

without knowing the full details its hard to say what law they broke.

link an example. what are the charges etc.

No example to give- no charges to reference. The laws in MD effectively prohibit handgun ownership if a individual does not have a "residence". How can a individual only possess a handgun legally if a) in their home/residence, or b) while unloaded in transport between home and range, business, or gun store/smith. If one has no home, they would not be perpetually going to a gun store or range and are always in a "common area". Obviously the obligatory school/gov building, etc would be an exception- but the laws effectively limit lawful handgun ownership to individuals who have a residence.

 

[lx1x]

No example to give- no charges to reference. The laws in MD effectively prohibit handgun ownership if a individual does not have a "residence". How can a individual only possess a handgun legally if a) in their home/residence, or b) while unloaded in transport between home and range, business, or gun store/smith. If one has no home, they would not be perpetually going to a gun store or range and are always in a "common area". Obviously the obligatory school/gov building, etc would be an exception- but the laws effectively limit lawful handgun ownership to individuals who have a residence.

home doesnt need to be your own.

let say...i still live in my mothers basement.. i dont pay rent...my name is not on the deed etc.

that house is considered my residence as long i can prove it (via dl or id or bills).

if that make sense.

 

[matt]

home doesnt need to be your own.

let say...i still live in my mothers basement.. i dont pay rent...my name is not on the deed etc.

that house is considered my residence as long i can prove it (via dl or id or bills).

if that make sense.

Correct- but you would have a "fixed address". I believe squatters law is something like thirty days then one has to be evicted via the courts. That is not who I'm trying to describe.

The point I'm trying to make is an individual that has no address- moved out of their apartment at the end of the lease, sold all their furniture and decided to live out of a shopping cart. Left on good terms but prefers to not have a address. This individual has never been in trouble with the law, is mentally sound, average intelligence, is a legal us citizen, pays taxes, has a job (let's say garbage man - to avoid the "stink" arguments), yet he would prefer to live without an address, mobile, all his possessions fit in a duffel bag. With out having a home, and he's not the business owner, how can he own/possess a handgun in MD with out constantly being in violation of the wear/carry restrictions.

Edit: a shopping cart that was lawfully purchased- just in case.

 

[swinokur]

What are the apt complex's rules? It's private property so they decide what you can do. I'd guess they won't approve no matter what MD law might say.

IANAL.

 

[lx1x]

Correct- but you would have a "fixed address". I believe squatters law is something like thirty days then one has to be evicted via the courts.

The point I'm trying to make is an individual that has no address- moved out of their apartment at the end of the lease, sold all their furniture and decided to live out of a shopping cart. Left on good terms but prefers to not have a address. This individual has never been in trouble with the law, is mentally sound, average intelligence, is a legal us citizen, pays taxes, has a job (let's say garbage man - to avoid the "stink" arguments), yet he would prefer to live without an address, mobile, all his possessions fit in a duffel bag. With out having a home, and he's not the business owner, how can he own/possess a handgun in MD with out constantly being in violation of the wear/carry restrictions.

no way it will be kosher for the said person to be living in his car with a handgun period.

sucks but thats reality as far as i know.

only thing to make it legal is store the gun at friend or family house while the person is at work.

state doesnt prohibit that person owning a gun... may have issue about storage or buying a gun.

 

[matt]

no way it will be kosher for the said person to be living in his car with a handgun period.

sucks but thats reality as far as i know.

only thing to make it legal is store the gun at friend or family house while the person is at work.

No car, no friends, no family. Just one guy, with no priors, no home (shopping cart/duffel bag) and in Maryland apparently no equal protection or 2a rights.

 

[lx1x]

No car, no friends. Just one guy, with no priors, no home (shopping cart/duffel bag) and in Maryland apparently no equal protection or 2a rights.

they have protection and full rights. but if they cant follow the md law they cant exercise it.


it sucks.. we have constitutional rights.. but to certain extent. welcome to md.

 

[Docster]

Yep, same topic ad nauseum.....