- Aug 17, 2011
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92-Year-Old WWII Vet Shoots and Kills Home Intruder
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Winchester_guy87
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Everyone seems to think you need a 40 or a 45 for home defense... I think its a load of B.S. a .22 has the same effect in the end as a 9mm .40 or .45 IMO when you are defending yourself in your own home with no other way out and have no other choice you will shoot to kill not shoot to wound
Gundahar
Active Member
- Sep 4, 2011
- 372
A couple of thoughts on this:
If I am attacked in my home, with my wife and small child--there is no "shooting to wound". This practice is highly recommended against by, well everyone, including legal defense experts such as Masad Ayoob.
Second, while a .22 is lethal, it can take a very long while to get to this point--as in hours. This is a problem.
Third, in the case of a Meth-high rage invasion type, which is the type I expect to not flee when the shooting starts, you are likely to need serious upgrades to firepower. The cannibal guy in FL. took 6+ rounds to stop, and he was both naked, and not actively trying to eat the cop.
If given enough time in a home defense situation, I am 1) Rifling up, and 2) using the biggest, baddest thing I've got. I'm not grabbing a .22 and saying "hey this does the trick....most of the time". Even in the various desert boxes our guys are *still* fighting in there are way too many accounts of bad guys getting shot by .223's and just getting back up. At 300 yards this is annoying. At 3 yards this is downright unacceptable.
Gundahar
.22s have been know to ricochet within the body after contact with bone. A lot of ER's claim it is the worst kind of wound. (You will have to do your own Googling for I have heard it from way to many different sources to verify) Criminal probably bleed out. Not saying shot placement wasnt key, but it was most likely reactive fire.
On another note the Victim was probable targeted because he was elderly which is such a shame. I am not saying it in any respects ok to rob/rape/murder/pillage but this is becoming an unfortunate trend. I am glad this man took this guy out and only wish he got the others as well.
On another note the Victim was probable targeted because he was elderly which is such a shame. I am not saying it in any respects ok to rob/rape/murder/pillage but this is becoming an unfortunate trend. I am glad this man took this guy out and only wish he got the others as well.
In Obama's America Mr. Jones would be viewed as a criminal.
- Aug 17, 2011
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ContinualHarvest
Member
The homeowner IMHO was totally justified. 3 criminals against one old man?
I bet the other two punks will think long and hard before they attempt to break into another home. As for the one that lost his life, he gave up protection from harm as soon as he began his felonious act.
I bet the other two punks will think long and hard before they attempt to break into another home. As for the one that lost his life, he gave up protection from harm as soon as he began his felonious act.
Sirex
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A hole in the heart is just as deadly regardless of size.
A wise man once sang;
Shot through the heart
And you're to blame
Darlin'
You give love a bad name
A wise man once sang;
Shot through the heart
And you're to blame
Darlin'
You give love a bad name
Name Taken
Ultimate Member
It's sad an elder has to bear the burden of taking anothers life at this point in his life.
Regardless of what many think....it's not something easy to deal with.
Happy all turned out well for the home owner.
Anyone who is thinking "I'll grab the .22 instead of the 9mm or .45" has issues.
Regardless of what many think....it's not something easy to deal with.
Happy all turned out well for the home owner.
Anyone who is thinking "I'll grab the .22 instead of the 9mm or .45" has issues.
TonyStewartFan
Member
- Jun 12, 2010
- 8
Good for him! He said it was the 3rd time someone broke into his house...he was ready this time!
huesmann
n00b
Well, the thing the .22 does have for it is that it makes accurate followup shots incredibly easy compared to just about any other round.
Gundahar
Active Member
- Sep 4, 2011
- 372
Have to consider, the guy is 92. Maybe the .22 was the biggest, baddest, or even the only gun in the house.
I'll be happy to be rocking a .22 at that age. At my age I can handle the recoil/heft of beefier guns.
Gundahar
I'll be happy to be rocking a .22 at that age. At my age I can handle the recoil/heft of beefier guns.
Gundahar
I heard about this on a radio show and apparently he told the reporters killibg that guy was no different than killing a raccoon. Now if he did actually say that and it wasn't the radio show host making fun of him, then good. Means he won't feel remorse for taking that scumbag down, and why should he? When a man or woman defends his or her castle, there should be no remorse. Someone who prays on those he believes to be weak and defensless deserves what they get when a home owner defends himself or herself.
It's not about caliber; it's about shot placement.
I think I remember a story here about a woman shooting an intruder that came in while she was in the shower, IIRC it she got him with a .22 (rifle?)
Did any of you feel remorse when you killed an enemy combatant overseas?
Then why would you feel remorse for defending your life here at home?
Just sayin.
sbbieshelt
Active Member
USA Today had this story a couple days ago. The owner said he had to give up his gun to the cops and was affraid of being unarmed if the other 2 came back. Made me think about folks that have only one gun, its pretty sad.
DoubleTap007
Active Member
There are all going points here. I think the concept of going with the larger caliber is based on the idea that the perp will have a gun of his own. In that case, you really only want to take one good shot.
I'm glad the old man did not get hurt, and taught a lesson. That's the problem in this world, no one is taught lessons enough. Point being, I would be really suprised to see the 2 remaining buddies try to pull off another robbery.
For the record, I opt for .45cal, I'm not looking to wound if you jepordize the safety of my family.
I'm glad the old man did not get hurt, and taught a lesson. That's the problem in this world, no one is taught lessons enough. Point being, I would be really suprised to see the 2 remaining buddies try to pull off another robbery.
For the record, I opt for .45cal, I'm not looking to wound if you jepordize the safety of my family.
+1
IMHO, if you are not shooting to kill, there is no sense shooting.
If you are squeamish about that, you shouldn't own a gun other than for sport.
pskryja
Active Member
You gotta love the .22!!
