92-Year-Old WWII Vet Shoots and Kills Home Intruder

[shubin6]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/92-...der-as-soon-as-he-got-inside-it-was-all-over/

 

[BenL]

It's not about caliber; it's about shot placement.

I hope the homeowner is ok.

 

[DoubleTap007]

I waqs suprised to see he took care of business with a .22, but your right, shot placement is critical.

 

[RaVis]

... shot placement is critical.

To what in this particular situation? If the burglar had enough "umph" to get away... he would have still had enough "umph" to hurt the homeowner if under the influence of drugs, rage or anger/adrenaline. Instead, he decided to flee... to the luck of the homeowner.

 

[Mooseman]

Good for Mr. Jones. You can't take the fight out of these WWII vets.

 

[Redcobra]

Good for Mr. Jones. You can't take the fight out of these WWII vets.

Don't f with us Vietnam era vets either

 

[huesmann]

To what in this particular situation? If the burglar had enough "umph" to get away... he would have still had enough "umph" to hurt the homeowner if under the influence of drugs, rage or anger/adrenaline. Instead, he decided to flee... to the luck of the homeowner.

Well, the homeowner only took one shot. If the burglar had continued to advance, he prolly would have let him have some more.

 

[Threeband]

This couldn't have really happened.

I heard that if you have a gun in your house, you'll only end up shooting yourself. Either that, or the burglar will take it away from you.


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To the OP:

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Instead, just give us a brief description of the story along with the link, like this:

Here's a great story of a 92 year old veteran defending his home from a stupid criminal who kicked in his door at 2 in the morning. Result: one dead home invader, both of his buddies in jail.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/92-...der-as-soon-as-he-got-inside-it-was-all-over/

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[shubin6]

Thanks for the editing and messages of joppaj and threeband.

I will be careful on posting news articles.

 

[Nemesis]

To what in this particular situation? If the burglar had enough "umph" to get away... he would have still had enough "umph" to hurt the homeowner if under the influence of drugs, rage or anger/adrenaline. Instead, he decided to flee... to the luck of the homeowner.

Oh blah blah blah...i get so sick of this crap...did you even read the article? The one boy he shot died right there, plain and simple...the other 2 ran off, i doubt they cared if it was a .22 or a .30-06 when they hear a bang and their buddy hits the ground. You can come up with a million what-ifs for everything but they dont change the reality of what actually happened

 

[Docster]

No,the dead guy was found later in another location (fled the scene). However I noticed the comments about an 'old man taking out a criminal with 1 shot, too bad police couldn't do the same......'

Not cop-bashing, just noticing that others seem very aware of the 46 shots-to-stop-a-criminal thing, not just us.

 

[RaVis]

Oh blah blah blah...i get so sick of this crap...did you even read the article? The one boy he shot died right there, plain and simple...the other 2 ran off, i doubt they cared if it was a .22 or a .30-06 when they hear a bang and their buddy hits the ground. You can come up with a million what-ifs for everything but they dont change the reality of what actually happened

I did. Did you?

 

[kookymonstir]

I love happy endings. Since the poor guy has been robbed several times in previous weeks, maybe he can live in peace.

 

[BiG Bersa]

how come the reporter keeps calling it a shotgun...?

 

[MikeSP]

how come the reporter keeps calling it a shotgun...?

Because they are idiots.

 

[MikeSP]

No,the dead guy was found later in another location (fled the scene). .

The article said the other two guys were charged with second degree burglary and tampering with evidence. It said they removed the body from the old man's home. He could have still been alive, but that's not how it reads.

 

[Nemesis]

I did. Did you?

Yea, but i misread...sorry. regardless, the fact is that it was still enough to not only scare them off and kill one of them. My point still remains that the caliber really didnt matter, it was the fact that he was shot/they were shot at that was enough to send them running.

 

[Gundahar]

Nothing against .22's, but there are known cases where caliber matters. The first is against a hopped up assailant, which is distressingly common. Also the reason for the 1911 in the first place!

Sure a .22 in exactly the right place will still work, but I'd rather have a bit more leeway than that. This goes triple for a moderate-to-willing shot like myself, who is going CM, and not head shot, regardless of caliber.

Cops used to have real problems with the .38 round's ability to get stops, back in the day, but the .38 spl "detective's load" basically corrected that.

I'm not saying that caliber matter so much as I am what comes out of the barrel, with what force, does. Its also something you can easily control in the leisure time well before an attack, and is not nearly as time intensive as training.

These days there is a lot of data out there on a number of different load outs due to police shootings. Some rounds perform better, over a large sample size, than others. It hurts nothing to gravitate towards these loads, and I think its not unreasonable to plan for using them in case of a crisis. Its not like I expect the SWAT guys to ditch their handguns in favor of .22's any day now. No one who uses them professionally would, I expect, and for a good reason. No sense not playing the odds and when lives are on the line, you 'gotta go with what's expected to work best.

Edit: My considerations: I expect 90+% of criminals to flee if I start effective fire on them, even if they heavily outnumber the defender. I also believe that the other 10% are the worst case crazy/PCP-Meth types, and its those 10% that slant my preparations. I don't have hard data on the percentage of violent crime committed by the truly hardcore versus the "in it for the money" criminal, but either way, its those types that ultimately force me to consider higher power loads and larger calibers. YMMV--that is just my way of thinking. I also prefer the heavier 7.62 or 30-30 type rifles for the same reason :-)


Gundahar

 

[ADR]

Nothing against .22's, but there are known cases where caliber matters. The first is against a hopped up assailant, which is distressingly common. Also the reason for the 1911 in the first place!

Sure a .22 in exactly the right place will still work, but I'd rather have a bit more leeway than that. This goes triple for a moderate-to-willing shot like myself, who is going CM, and not head shot, regardless of caliber.

Cops used to have real problems with the .38 round's ability to get stops, back in the day, but the .38 spl "detective's load" basically corrected that.

I'm not saying that caliber matter so much as I am what comes out of the barrel, with what force, does. Its also something you can easily control in the leisure time well before an attack, and is not nearly as time intensive as training.

These days there is a lot of data out there on a number of different load outs due to police shootings. Some rounds perform better, over a large sample size, than others. It hurts nothing to gravitate towards these loads, and I think its not unreasonable to plan for using them in case of a crisis. Its not like I expect the SWAT guys to ditch their handguns in favor of .22's any day now. No one who uses them professionally would, I expect, and for a good reason. No sense not playing the odds and when lives are on the line, you 'gotta go with what's expected to work best.


Gundahar

Regardless of what he shot the intruder with, he possessed one weapon that a lot of better equipped individuals don't which is the ability to actually squeeze the trigger when it counted.

 

[Gundahar]

Regardless of what he shot the intruder with, he possessed one weapon that a lot of better equipped individuals don't which is the ability to actually squeeze the trigger when it counted.

Oh agree 100%! Heck, I keep eyeing the .22 LCR Ruger revolvers.


Gundahar