Probably none. Most MD FFLs will do a fired she'll casing for a nominal fee.
7.62x39 maryland legal rifles?
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Probably none. Most MD FFLs will do a fired she'll casing for a nominal fee.
you can buy one in pa or va and get the mags. Other than that, a lot of the MD IPs that sell them block the mags non-permanently
Scott7891
Love those Combloc guns
ken792
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I have an out of state source who says he's getting more Vz.58 mags "soon" for about $20 each. I can let you know if he comes through.
Vile Shadow
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- Feb 28, 2013
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Get the VZ. You can worry about the mags later, like at out of state gunshows. You won't be sorry.
2nd=Good+Substantial
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I'd be interested in getting a few more. Please advise if your source is successful.
OP, check with Gary at High Rock Outfitters, he may still have some Vz58's (with 3 standard capacity mags).
Ironsighter
It's "Citizen," not "Civilian"
CMMG Mutant rifle is a 7.62X39 that uses standard AK mags (of all materials, plastic to metal) and is over-the-counter Maryland legal. Just came out and they are a quality item.
http://www.cmmginc.com/category_s/1998.htm
It uses an AR-style direct-gas impingement bolt (basically an AR-10 bolt with the back of the carrier necked down to go inside an AR-15 buffer tube).
Other than mags, all AR-15 goodies work, including fire control group parts.
Irons
http://www.cmmginc.com/category_s/1998.htm
It uses an AR-style direct-gas impingement bolt (basically an AR-10 bolt with the back of the carrier necked down to go inside an AR-15 buffer tube).
Other than mags, all AR-15 goodies work, including fire control group parts.
Irons
Wow thanks!
Anyone: ideal AR barrel length is 20", ideal 300blk is half that. What is ideal 762x39 barrel length?
ken792
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ken792
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Yes. You just need an HQL, since it's a handgun like any other.
Wfilardo
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Assuming the pistol in on the MD hangun roster and can be transferred into MD there are FFLs here who will fire the weapon and submit the shell casing to MSP. For an additional fee of course.
Ironsighter
It's "Citizen," not "Civilian"
Range report on the CMMG MK47 Mutant.
Fired about 150 rounds on Friday at 50 yards from a variety of magazines, from new MagPul AK plastic mags to surplus AK metal ones.
First, the MagPul flip-up backup iron sights were nearly on from the get-go: shot about six inches low and a couple inches left right out of the box. A few shots and it was centered at 50 yards.
Accuracy was pretty good with my old eyes and "irons" (plastics?) at that distance. I put most variations down to my shivering and shooter technique. I was happy with the way it shot from the bench: all rounds stayed near the middle of the Shoot-n-See target, grouping nicely. Sorry for the lack of pics - phone was in the warm(er) truck.
Reliability is still a question mark: I didn't have many problems with the MagPul plastic mag (one FTF), which I'd put down to infant mortality/break-in, I had a few more malfunctions (all FTF) with the surplus AK metal mags, including one mag that caused an FTF every time after the first shot was fired.
This needs more research. Once everything is cleaned and re-lubed, I'll shoot again for reliability using a number of mags.
Overall, other than the open issue above, I like the rifle. I've read of people pooh-poohing it on line because it's not an AK and it's not an AR. it's expensive for sure. There's no bolt-hold-open feature and the AR-style charging handle is the only means to cycle the action after a reload. I don't mind the simplicity, however.
Even with whatever bargain-basement 7.62X39 rounds I had laying around, the rifle ran pretty cleanly for a direct-impingement gas gun and the bolt carrier wasn't in bad shape at all following this relatively limited session.
What most of those people (from out of state) don't get is that it is a Maryland over-the-counter AR-pattern rifle chambered in a caliber with readily-available cheap ammo with a full-length keymod handguard and that takes standard AR fire control parts on the lower. It's pretty light and I could see myself shooting coyotes or hogs with it and generally just having fun.
Is it the be-all and end-all? Of course not, especially until I sort out the FTFs, but it's a very likeable rifle. If you want to thumb your nose at Maryland's stupidity when it comes to firearms laws, perhaps you'd like to go and get one over the counter in a cash-and-carry deal.
More to follow after reliability testing.
Irons
Fired about 150 rounds on Friday at 50 yards from a variety of magazines, from new MagPul AK plastic mags to surplus AK metal ones.
First, the MagPul flip-up backup iron sights were nearly on from the get-go: shot about six inches low and a couple inches left right out of the box. A few shots and it was centered at 50 yards.
Accuracy was pretty good with my old eyes and "irons" (plastics?) at that distance. I put most variations down to my shivering and shooter technique. I was happy with the way it shot from the bench: all rounds stayed near the middle of the Shoot-n-See target, grouping nicely. Sorry for the lack of pics - phone was in the warm(er) truck.
Reliability is still a question mark: I didn't have many problems with the MagPul plastic mag (one FTF), which I'd put down to infant mortality/break-in, I had a few more malfunctions (all FTF) with the surplus AK metal mags, including one mag that caused an FTF every time after the first shot was fired.
This needs more research. Once everything is cleaned and re-lubed, I'll shoot again for reliability using a number of mags.
Overall, other than the open issue above, I like the rifle. I've read of people pooh-poohing it on line because it's not an AK and it's not an AR. it's expensive for sure. There's no bolt-hold-open feature and the AR-style charging handle is the only means to cycle the action after a reload. I don't mind the simplicity, however.
Even with whatever bargain-basement 7.62X39 rounds I had laying around, the rifle ran pretty cleanly for a direct-impingement gas gun and the bolt carrier wasn't in bad shape at all following this relatively limited session.
What most of those people (from out of state) don't get is that it is a Maryland over-the-counter AR-pattern rifle chambered in a caliber with readily-available cheap ammo with a full-length keymod handguard and that takes standard AR fire control parts on the lower. It's pretty light and I could see myself shooting coyotes or hogs with it and generally just having fun.
Is it the be-all and end-all? Of course not, especially until I sort out the FTFs, but it's a very likeable rifle. If you want to thumb your nose at Maryland's stupidity when it comes to firearms laws, perhaps you'd like to go and get one over the counter in a cash-and-carry deal.
More to follow after reliability testing.
Irons
CAn't speak for SoMD but several up near Baltimore will do it.
- Dec 27, 2012
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A1 will transfer your gun and provide the fired shell casing.
amoebicmagician
Samopal Goblin
can't remember if it was mentioned, but the ARAK-21 and the Mutant both should be GTG.
The mutant being the more accurate of the two, the ARAK being the more reliable and cleaner running.
Both have nitrided barrels, which I approve of, but the ARAK has nitrided rails, and the entire BCG, which is heavily based on the AK's long stroke design is also melonited.
Really cool idea, and quite accuate with the right ammo, just not as accurate as a DI gun like the mutant.
Plus you can put a folding stock on the ARAK, the buffer tube is not necessary
The mutant being the more accurate of the two, the ARAK being the more reliable and cleaner running.
Both have nitrided barrels, which I approve of, but the ARAK has nitrided rails, and the entire BCG, which is heavily based on the AK's long stroke design is also melonited.
Really cool idea, and quite accuate with the right ammo, just not as accurate as a DI gun like the mutant.
Plus you can put a folding stock on the ARAK, the buffer tube is not necessary
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