100 Things that Disappear First in a Panic Situation

[DD214]

Yeah- speaking of anal probes, maybe all of this culminated from his trip to Man Francisco recently........

 

[trapture]

unless your doing beer stills are illegal for spirits. Unless you want the regulators coming to your house that is. But heres the real kicker. One can grow medicial Marjuania and sell it to recoup growing expenses. Also you can write it off on your taxes, but making and definately selling "Moon Shine" is illegal.

 

[HoChiWaWa]

unless your doing beer stills are illegal for spirits. Unless you want the regulators coming to your house that is.

aren't we talking about a complete breakdown of society?

Anyway, is running a still illegal if you're not selling it?

 

[jpk1md]

aren't we talking about a complete breakdown of society?

Anyway, is running a still illegal if you're not selling it?

Yes it is still illegal to produce regardless of your intent to use or not.

You can legally produce Wine and Beer for personal consumption but not hooch......stupid laws!

 

[DD214]

Anyway, is running a still illegal if you're not selling it?

I'm not sure if them dang ol' Duke boys were selling, but the law was always after them. Like two modern day Robin Hoods.

 

[Adams74Chevy]

You can have an Ethanol still for fuel...hmmm

 

[mdjamesd]

I think in a Crisis Situation, we should make MDSHOOTERS land! A safe refuge for members and their families....Lets see if the hoodlums try and rob us!

 

[K31]

Hey, I was talking about the guy in the video.

 

[HoChiWaWa]

You can have an Ethanol still for fuel...hmmm

perfect! I have an alcohol stove, therefor I am just producing my own fuel!

 

[Norton]

Well you could have a still....ya know, for essential oils and stuff

http://annapolishomebrew.com/shopSSequip.asp

 

[Half-cocked]

You can have an Ethanol still for fuel...hmmm

Yep, and the only thing preventing you from operating an ethanol still, even for production of fuel, is, ta-da.... THE BATF.

You need to have all the proper licenses, follow a litany of requirements, and get approval from the BATF, before you can even THINK about operating a still.

 

[Adams74Chevy]

Well I didn't say the .gov wouldn't want to know what your doing

 

[Drmsparks]

The reason you can't have a still is because you can use it for fuel. The BATF does not enforce that law- it's the revenue'ers (Internal revenue sevice) because of the fuel tax.


They have started shutting down home brew bio-fuel guys as well.

Heinlein used to say the first sign of a society in it's death throws was dirty public restrooms. The last straw was universal ID.

 

[h2u]

Uh-Oh. Looks like detention for me again.......

 

[baergy]

New Improved List

#1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy..target of thieves; maintenance, etc.) Better yet is a trunk full of 12 volt batteries (8-10) and a solar panel and converters.
#2. Water Filters/Purifiers (Shipping delays increasing.) Mechanical Distiller

#3. Portable Toilets (Increasing in price every two months.) Toilet hole cut in 3/4" plywood 2’ x 2’ as good as uptown

#4. Seasoned Firewood (About $100 per cord; wood takes 6 - 12 mos. to become dried, for home uses.) Not if cut Sept to Feb when sap is going down.2-3 months in free air stack
#5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!) Just jump to paraffin wax
#6. Coleman Fuel (URGENT $2.69-$3.99/gal. Impossible to stockpile too much.) same as above

#7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots

#8. Hand-Can openers & hand egg beaters, whisks (Life savers!) All hand tools

#9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugars (cut out the refined sugars

#10. Rice - Beans - Wheat (White rice is now $12.95 - 50# bag. Sam's Club, stock depleted often.)

#11. Vegetable oil (for cooking) (Without it food burns/must be boiled, etc.) Not needed much if you start cooking animals

#12. Charcoal & Lighter fluid (Will become scarce suddenly.)Refillable butane lighters with refill containers

#13. Water containers (Urgent Item to obtain. Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY)

#14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won't heat a room.)

#15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)

#16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur by September, 1999.) There are more than a billion in the dumps with perfectly safe and good valves that haven’t been replaced by made in china 15 cent government approved valves. Make friends with a real person supplier.
#17. Michael Hyatt's Y2K Survival Guide (BEST single y2k handbook for sound advice/tips.) ??????

#18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.) Wax again

#19. Baby Supplies: (Diapers/formula) forget it, you already have all this on-board /ointments/aspirin, iodine, penicillin other anti biotics, hydrogen peroxide etc

#20. Washboards, one is the only keeper here - Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)

#21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene) way down the list

#22. Vitamins (Critical, due 10 Y2K-forced daily canned food diets.) non essential

#23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item.) way way way down the list

#24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products - get used to it already

#25. Thermal underwear (Tops and bottoms)

#26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets & Wedges (also, honing oil) knives files and stones

#27. Aluminum foil Reg. & Hvy. Duty (Great Cooking & Barter item) almost last on the list

#28. Gasoline containers (Plastic or Metal)

#29. Garbage bags (Impossible to have too many.)

#30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, paper towels- ass wipe only for the near time revert to washable cloth wipes

#31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake liquid every 3 to 4 months.)

#32. Garden seeds (Non-hybrid) (A MUST)

#33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)

#34. Coleman's Pump & Repair Kit: 1(800) 835-3278

#35. Tuna Fish (in oil) try all fish

#36. Fire extinguishers (or.. large box of Baking soda in every room...) give me a break

#37. First aid kits (already above

#38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)

#39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies ( as in baking powder

#40. BIG DOGS (and plenty of dog food) you’re way better of with the mother of your kids here – Shoot the dog when you start to crave red meat. If you feed dog food you deserve to die of starvation.

#41. Flour, yeast & salt plus 100lbs course salt

#42. Matches (3 box/$1 .44 at WalMart: "Strike Anywhere" preferred. Boxed, wooden matches will go first.)

#43. Writing paper/pads/pencils/solar calculators

#44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime)

#45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts

#46. Flashlights/LIGIITSTICKS & torches, "No.76 Dietz" Lanterns (now all lights should be LED’s

#47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (Jot down ideas, feelings, experiences: Historic times!)This is a repeat

#48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels) This is a repeat

#49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers,etc This is a repeat

#50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)

#51. Fishing supplies/tools

#52. Mosquito coils/repellent sprays/creams ( learn to live with them

#53. Duct tape

#54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes

#55. Candles (this is/was with wax & wicks

#56. Laundry detergent (Liquid) (concentrate

#57. Backpacks & Duffle bags (pack boards

#58. Garden tools & supplies (Shovel and hoe

#59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies

#60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.(you deserve to die if you can’t make soup and stew, stick to staples

#61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite) further down the list

#62. Canning supplies (Jars/lids/wax)

#63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel (Repeat, see above

#64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc.

#65. Sleeping bags & blankets/pillows/mats

#66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered) who the heck thought of this – YOU’RE OUT

#67. Board Games Cards, Dice Why would you need a board game with cards and dice?

#68. d-Con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer ( forget it – see below)

#69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets (catch and eat the mice and you won’t need to eat the roaches or ants)

#70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks...) and head in the other direction – you won’t be coming to my places

#71. Baby Wipes, oils, waterless & Anti-bacterial soap (saves a lot of water) get real, eh

#72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.

#73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave) more redundancies

#74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)

#75. Soysauce, vinegar, boullions/gravy/soup base (Repeat – see above)

#76. Reading glasses

#77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers) you can join the school teachers, bye

#78. "Survival-in-a-Can"

#79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens (great but please move it to the top of the list)

#80. BSA - New 1998 - Boy Scout Handbook (also, Leader's Catalog) This should be in your head

#81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO) and you can stay in the city

#82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky (add to list above of staple foods

#83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts (see above)

#84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras) (let me guess – this was Einstein’s idea - please move it above)

#85. Lumber (all types) fit scraps where ever you can

#86. Wagons & carts (for transport to & from open Flea markets)

#87. Cots & Inflatable mattresses (for extra guests) (while you sleep on the floor

#88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.

#89. Lantern Hangers (Wow, I wouldn’t have thought of them in 1000 years

#90. Screen Patches, forget it and leave these(glue, nails, screws, nuts & bolts

#91. Teas (on the list of staples and tradables)

#92. Coffee (ditto)

#93. Cigarettes (ditto)

#94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc.)

#95. Paraffin wax (REPEAT)

#96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc. (Repeat)

#97. Chewing gum/candies (move to #144)

#98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)

#99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs (now you’ve got an outfit- you can be a cowboy, too) see above

#100. Goats/chickens

 

[Waterdoor]

I think in a Crisis Situation, we should make MDSHOOTERS land! A safe refuge for members and their families....Lets see if the hoodlums try and rob us!

I was thinking the exact same thing. Damn if we joined up with a few other area groups, we could have a three state wide compound in the hills somewhere. Nobody would want anything to do with our area.

 

[Oldcarjunkie]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Damn if we joined up with a few other area groups, we could have a three state wide compound in the hills somewhere. Nobody would want anything to do with our area.

Sounds right to me.

 

[K31]

Nobody would want anything to do with our area.

Sort of like PG county.

 

[mvee]

I found something intersting, To see where this list is cross posted, google "No.76 Dietz". There are a lot of interesting sites that come up.

Apparently these lanterns weren't made until 1978 and they were only made overseas.

of course any kerosene lantern would work I just wanted to see what the lanterns looked like.

now I sleep