Ak build party?

rogue780 · Aug 14, 2013

Hey, I was thinking about getting a couple extra receiver flats to bring to the party so I can have some finished AK74 receivers by 1 Oct. All that I need to make them legally firearms are to bend the flats and weld the rails in there, right?

armed ferret · Aug 14, 2013

technically any more work beyond how they come to you is considered "more than 80%" and thus a receiver according to current laws. in that vein, if all you wanted to do at the build party is bend a few, that's enough; anything you do beyond that is icing on the cake as far as work you don't have to do later.

rogue780 · Aug 14, 2013

armed ferret said:
technically any more work beyond how they come to you is considered "more than 80%" and thus a receiver according to current laws. in that vein, if all you wanted to do at the build party is bend a few, that's enough; anything you do beyond that is icing on the cake as far as work you don't have to do later.

Sweet. I can only afford two kits, but wanted some flexibility in the future to finish some more builds after the ban

tc617 · Aug 14, 2013

I'll be there. Are there any tools that are needed that I can bring?

I wanted to get a serialized lower but I am against the wall now time wise. I ordered a flat without trunnion holes.

dragonfire1911 · Aug 14, 2013

armed ferret said:
these aren't those kind of rivets. they're crushed in a press, not hammered.

What do you think this guy used?
I haven't tried it, but seems the same kind of rivets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lASKZonRmuM

armed ferret · Aug 14, 2013

Hammered rivets look hammered.

Works fine if you want a bfpu or kp look...

hvymax · Aug 15, 2013

How long does park take. I could set up a stainless tank and Coleman stove. If it is a few minutes I can do a 6-8" dia receiver deep that would take 1-2gal of solution. If longer I could make something larger that would take more solution.

armed ferret · Aug 15, 2013

15-20 minutes, depends on the size of the pieces and the dilution of the mixture. if you buy a gallon of parking fluid from brownells or midway or whomever, DO NOT use it as is. you have to dilute it, usually 4-1 or 5-1, water-to-park ratio.

hvymax · Aug 15, 2013

Anybody want to pick up some solution and I will set up a tank? Ferret what besides a tank and solution do we need. I have black iron and steel around and a few battery chargers.

-Z/28- · Aug 15, 2013

What are the pros-cons of park vs paint?

I'd like to go with a dark black finish like my top cover and other parts already are.

hvymax · Aug 16, 2013

-Z/28- said:
What are the pros-cons of park vs paint?

I'd like to go with a dark black finish like my top cover and other parts already are.

About the difference between anodizing and crayon. Especially internally. Raw park is an amazing paint base as it is absorbed almost to the molecular level. There is a reason that park has been the primary finish on military arms for a century.

armed ferret · Aug 16, 2013

whenever you have the option, ALWAYS paint over park instead of bare metal. corrosion resistance is increased by a factor of eleventy. and that's science.

a thermometer (meat thermometer) would be a good idea to keep an eye on park temp. you want it right around 160-180*, preferably on the warmer side. ventilation is good too...the vapor can sting the eyes. :lol2:

some old coat hangers or similar thick wire to suspend the parts wouldn't hurt either.

-Z/28- · Aug 16, 2013

Park before paint it is then!

hvymax · Aug 16, 2013

Somebody want to get some ceracoat? I can make an oven with some insulated duct and halogen light?

hvymax · Aug 16, 2013

I'll PM out the address and phone # tomorrow to those coming.

rogue780 · Aug 16, 2013

hvymax said:
I'll PM out the address and phone # tomorrow to those coming.

Sweet, can't wait

hvymax said:
Somebody want to get some ceracoat? I can make an oven with some insulated duct and halogen light?

hvymax said:
Anybody want to pick up some solution and I will set up a tank? Ferret what besides a tank and solution do we need. I have black iron and steel around and a few battery chargers.

If someone tells me where and how much to get, so long as it's not outrageously expensive, I'll pick some up and bring it.

hvymax · Aug 16, 2013

rogue780 said:
Sweet, can't wait

If someone tells me where and how much to get, so long as it's not outrageously expensive, I'll pick some up and bring it.

Brownells. A gal of park concentrate and enough Ceracoat for a dozen or so recievers.

Marksman · Aug 17, 2013

hvymax said:
I'll PM out the address and phone # tomorrow to those coming.

Didn't receive my PM. We still doing this?

hvymax · Aug 17, 2013

Marksman said:
Didn't receive my PM. We still doing this?

Sometime this afternoon or evening when I get to the real computer and can cut and paste.

rogue780 · Aug 17, 2013

hvymax said:
Brownells. A gal of park concentrate and enough Ceracoat for a dozen or so recievers.

I can afford to either get one gallon of park here: http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...zing/zinc-phosphate-parkerizing-prod1106.aspx

Or about three of the small cerakote kits here: http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...kote-ovencure-ceramic-coatings-prod26563.aspx

Ore the one large graphite black and one more small one.

Let me know which you want me to get, and if cerakote, what colors (if not just graphite black)

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