J&G Sales files Lawsuit Vs BATF

fivepointstar · Aug 1, 2011

J&G Sales files Lawsuit Vs BATF
ref: BATFE Demands the names and addresses and serial numbers of all purchases of more than one semi-automatic rifle, with a detachable magazine, over 22 caliber, within a 5 business day period.

http://www.jgsales.com/index.php

boricuamaximus · Aug 1, 2011

damn those death dealers. refusing to comply with directives that make us safer.

Bigdtc · Aug 1, 2011

Goood.. another black mark for BATFE.

teratos · Aug 1, 2011

They just don't learn.

Who heads these guys up anyway?

oldman12 · Aug 1, 2011

Just give em Holders name , should suffice.

Murple · Aug 1, 2011

I was planning to order a bunch of Brown Bear from AIM, but I think I'm going to get it from J&G now, even though it'll cost me an extra $27.

Beats throwing another $35 at NRA & hoping for the best.

Southwest Chuck · Aug 1, 2011

I cross posted this over to Calguns.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=461879

Thanks for the heads up, fivepointstar!

SC

jpk1md · Aug 1, 2011

time to make a purchase from jg sales :thumbsup:

fivepointstar · Aug 2, 2011

jpk1md said:
time to make a purchase from jg sales

zombiehunter · Aug 2, 2011

jpk1md said:
time to make a purchase from jg sales

Agreed

MD=What 2nd Amendment? · Aug 2, 2011

This could possibly have bigger implications if it goes our way. If struck down they might be able to crack the multi-purchase of a handgun in a 5 day period Brady Bill non-sense.

Inigoes · Aug 2, 2011

The older NRA thread, when the ATF annouced their plans

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=61577

cogcon · Aug 2, 2011

Fight hard J&G. If they just let the FFLs report suspicious sales like they wanted to in the beginning, we wouldn't have to go thru this BS.

Half-cocked · Aug 2, 2011

And the #1 answer is...

The BATF wants to eliminate any competition to their OWN illegal gun-running operations.

JOBU · Aug 2, 2011

Half-cocked said:
And the #1 answer is...

The BATF wants to eliminate any competition to their OWN illegal gun-running operations.

(1) Guns down south, Drugs up north. Perhaps the BATF has taken over the CIA drug network.....right Maxine Waters?

(2) So let me get this straight. Help me out fellas:

--I own a store that sell guns in the town of Hilt, California, which is about 20 miles from the Oregon border, but roughly 790 miles from Tijuana. But since California is a border state the jack-booted thugs of the BATF want me to report the sales.

Now here's the kicker

--But if my gun store is in Laughlin, NV, which is only 230 miles due north of the toilet (Mejico), and taking into account that Nevada is not a border state....I'm exempt.

Who the fvck is the idiot at the BATF who came up with this latest scam?

nighthawk2099 · Aug 3, 2011

JOBU said:
(1) Guns down south, Drugs up north. Perhaps the BATF has taken over the CIA drug network.....right Maxine Waters?

(2) So let me get this straight. Help me out fellas:

--I own a store that sell guns in the town of Hilt, California, which is about 20 miles from the Oregon border, but roughly 790 miles from Tijuana. But since California is a border state the jack-booted thugs of the BATF want me to report the sales.

Now here's the kicker

--But if my gun store is in Laughlin, NV, which is only 230 miles due north of the toilet (Mejico), and taking into account that Nevada is not a border state....I'm exempt.

Who the fvck is the idiot at the BATF who came up with this latest scam?

Al Norris · Aug 3, 2011

I just wish the dang thing would show up on PACER! I'd really like to read the complaint... Mark, I'm sure would like to add it to the ever growing list of 2A cases, as would I.

Al Norris · Aug 3, 2011

So I got curious, went back to PACER ... No Joy. Then went to the NRA-ILA site and found ....

It turns out that there is a good reason this lawsuit hasn't been listed yet at the DC Federal District Court.

This NRA-ILA alert, says the the NRA funded lawsuit was filed just today, Aug. 3rd.

That news item then lists a news story about the suit from the N.Y. Times, also published today.

From the Times story:

While the suit is being paid for by the N.R.A., it is being brought in the name of the two Arizona dealers, J&G Sales of Prescott and Foothills Firearms of Yuma. The complaint said that about 8,479 licensed dealers were in the four states affected by the rule.

The Times story does give a very brief (and misleading) nod to Fast and Furious.

So either the NRA mislead J&G Sales as to when the suit was (going to be) filed, or J&G misunderstood the NRA.

Either way, the case should be available within a day, certainly by Friday. Assuming the case was actually filed. sigh.

K31 · Aug 4, 2011

boricuamaximus said:
damn those death dealers. refusing to comply with directives that make us Mexicans safer.

Fixed.

Al Norris · Aug 4, 2011

Persistence pays off. Here's what I just posted over at TFL (more or less):

J&G SALES, LTD. et al v. MELSON: Filed 08/03/11 in D.C. Federal District Court. Case #1:11-cv-01402-BAH. Stephan Halbrook (NRA), attorney for the plaintiffs. Suit seeks injunction and declaratory relief from the attempt by the BATF to require FFL's in the 4 border States to notify the BATF of multiple semi-automatic rifle sales, as being beyond the statutory authority granted by the Congress.

Complaint: http://www.archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.dcd.149463/gov.uscourts.dcd.149463.1.0.pdf

Internet Archive
Justia Summary

NATIONAL SHOOTING SPORTS FOUNDATION, INC. v. MELSON: Filed 08/03/11 in D.C. Federal District Court. Case #1:11-cv-01401-RMC. Vincent E. Verrocchio, attorney for plaintiffs. Suit seeks injunction and declaratory relief from the attempt by the BATF to require FFL's in the 4 border States to notify the BATF of multiple semi-automatic rifle sales, as being beyond the statutory authority granted by the Congress.

Complaint: http://www.archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.dcd.149464/gov.uscourts.dcd.149464.1.0.pdf

Internet Archive
Justia Summary <-- this may not be an active link at Justia, yet. but it will be shortly.

This is not going to go away, quietly.

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