PA ending Florida non-resident permit reciprocity

Renemehan · Feb 8, 2013

http://www.abc27.com/story/21083936/ag-kane-i-want-to-close-florida-loophole

Article makes it sounds like it has already happened.

Man, this sucks... I have family in PA and often carry using my FL permit. Not sure how this works though because my Florida permit doesn't state "Non-Resident" anywhere on it.

DJ Paladin · Feb 8, 2013

Any charges with non-resident Utah permits?

Renemehan · Feb 8, 2013

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx?id=184

I'm not sure (still looking into it). The link above has text for the various reciprocity agreements for PA.

fightinbluhen51 · Feb 8, 2013

The PA AG is an anti-gun shill. I figured this was coming...hope they don't mess w/ VA permits.

Renemehan · Feb 8, 2013

From my reading, Utah is unaffected, but MD resident with Florida permit is now a NO-GO, since you need to be able to prove Florida residency.

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Crime/Firearm_Reciprocity_Notice_02062013.pdf

Looks like Ill be looking into a Utah permit...

eruby · Feb 8, 2013

Renemehan said:
From my reading, Utah is unaffected, but MD resident with Florida permit is now a NO-GO, since you need to be able to prove Florida residency.

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Crime/Firearm_Reciprocity_Notice_02062013.pdf

Looks like Ill be looking into a Utah permit...

Based on the pdf, I don't see where this has anything to do with Maryland residents holding a FLA non-resident permit, it (the pdf) only speaks to PA and FLA residents.

IANAL

Mooseman · Feb 8, 2013

I don't know anything about the PA AG, but this surprises me coming from PA.

LCPIWB · Feb 8, 2013

Whole article is confusing, especially this paragraph that makes no sense.

About 4,000 Pennsylvanians currently have Florida permits. Those residents now have 120 days to trade in their out-of-state permit for one issued by Pennsylvania. Their Florida permits will be honored will be honored without the need for a permit granted by a Pennsylvania authority.

It seems the "loophole" that "needed" to be fixed was requiring PA residents to hold PA permits. But article seems to indicate that they screwed everyone including PA non-residents in the process.(On purpose of course).

EDIT: Read the PDF attached a few posts above...Looks like only PA residents are affected.

Renemehan · Feb 8, 2013

That was just the notice, this is the official text of the agreement.

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Crime/firearms_agreement_florida_pa.pdf

1 - The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania shall give full faith and credit to a valid Concealed Handgun License issued by the State of Florida to LEGAL RESIDENTS of the State of Florida, ...

ChrisD · Feb 8, 2013

ezliving · Feb 8, 2013

February 4, 2013: Effective this date, PENNSYLVANIA will no longer honor a Florida concealed weapon license if the license holder is not a RESIDENT of the state of Florida.

http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/news/concealed_carry.html

dlmcbm · Feb 8, 2013

I read it as
PA resident only=must have PA CCP
PA and FL resident=CCP from PA or FL must have proof of FL resident if you don't have CCP from PA
FL resident=good to go as normal

Basically if you live in PA only then you must have a PA CCP

eruby · Feb 8, 2013

ezliving said:
http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/news/concealed_carry.html

Well, so much for being able to carry in PA with a FLA non-resident permit. :tdown:

I wonder if the stupid biitch AG will now try to kibosh Utah and Virginia non-resident permits.

Tomcat · Feb 8, 2013

the so-called Florida Loophole, which previously allowed residents who were denied a conceal carry permit in Pennsylvania to get one in Florida.

Then they go on to say

you can turn in your Florida permit for a Pennsylvania one

If you were denied a PA permit (which for a resident isn't all that hard in the first place except in Philadelphia) now they're going to give you one?

Renemehan · Feb 8, 2013

Wonder if they will reconsider letting us MD'ers get a PA non resident permit?

Yeah, i couldn't even type that with a straight face. This was done solely to lessen the number of people carrying in PA. I guess that makes some people feel safer...

MDFF2008 · Feb 8, 2013

The ironic thing, Florida requires a background check to include sending finger prints to the FBI.

PA is simply a PA instant check and your good to go.

JRoCc · Feb 8, 2013

fightinbluhen51 said:
The PA AG is an anti-gun shill. I figured this was coming...hope they don't mess w/ VA permits.

Looks like she was funded by Doomberg. I'm sure more permits are going to follow.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/09/n...n-contributions-yield-mixed-results.html?_r=0

MDMOUNTAINEER · Feb 8, 2013

When did this pass?

swinokur · Feb 8, 2013

effective 2-1-13

so far only FL NR permits are affected.

Wonder what happened?

new agreement attached

K-Romulus · Feb 8, 2013

eruby said:
Well, so much for being able to carry in PA with a FLA non-resident permit.

I wonder if the stupid biitch AG will now try to kibosh Utah and Virginia non-resident permits.

That was her campaign platform - abolish the "Florida loophole" as the Philly media dubbed it, and review ALL reciprocity agreements. That was why Bloomberg supported her. Abolishing CCW reciprocity is a MAIG initiative. Elections have consequences.

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