Buying a prohibited "assault weapon" as a Marylander... Question

[linkstate]

Newp, only just registered my account 2 days ago. Must be a glitch. And this is my 2nd thread, plus 2 replies.

Sorry OP. I’ve been corrected. I do stand by checking out Tyler Firearms. They are in your neck of the woods and an IP here.

 

[DanseMacabre]

You really should out this gun shop that is spreading this misinformation (presumably for almost 10 years now). Garand is specifically named as NOT banned. Mini14 (as long as it isn't a folding stock) and 30 are just rifles. Versions of M1A made by Polytech or not in 7.62 are also just rifles.

You'll see it discussed a lot here.

I wouldn't out them. They're great people, have been in business for a long time, & have bent over backwards to take care of me (especially on ammo given the scarcity headaches of the last couple years). I did ask them about the M1 thing a long while back & maybe I misunderstood what they told me. So the error could be on my end.

In either case, I'm glad I joined here because I have no doubt I'm about to get a sorely needed education. Never made a point of paying attention to Maryland news or political crap unless it directly impacted me. Trying to get caught up (at least where it concerns guns).

 

[Threeband]

Here is the link to the Civilian Marksmanship Program. You can buy up to eight Garands per calender year from them. Shipped right to your door.

M1 Garand - Civilian Marksmanship Program

M1 Garand rifles sold by CMP are authentic U.S. Government rifles that have been thoroughly inspected, with a variety of available grades.

thecmp.org

I would recommend you order a Service Grade, $900, for your first Garand.

More details:

CMP - Sale Details

 

[DanseMacabre]

Have you looked at the online naughty/not naughty list as a starting point?

https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizat...TRUE&p_GroupCol1=MISC&PageFirstRow=101&&View={5E568F20-A495-4E49-A0E0-C53F530B98F7}

Thankyou!!! Been hunting for just such a list but search engines weren't producing much in the way of results.

 

[Mightydog]

Move out of Marylinistan into Free America! Best advice to give.

 

[Art3]

I wouldn't out them. They're great people, have been in business for a long time, & have bent over backwards to take care of me (especially on ammo given the scarcity headaches of the last couple years). I did ask them about the M1 thing a long while back & maybe I misunderstood what they told me. So the error could be on my end.

In either case, I'm glad I joined here because I have no doubt I'm about to get a sorely needed education. Never made a point of paying attention to Maryland news or political crap unless it directly impacted me. Trying to get caught up (at least where it concerns guns).

At least try to educate them. Great people shouldn't be spreading misinformation. Also, know that when they tell you that it's illegal to carry with a standard capacity magazine (i.e. more that 10 rounds), that is untrue as well.

 

[Bob A]

. I want a Garand, a Ruger Mini-14, a Ruger Mini-30, a whole slieu of AKs beside a Draco, & many other long guns now forbidden to me. I've wanted them for years & am sick & tired of being denied my 2A right to own them. I'm willing to store them in another state & periodically commute there to enjoy my rifles at a local range. The question I have is am I allowed to do this legally?

Any advice welcome, thanks!

~Danse

No you can't do this legally. You can't buy weapons forbidden by MD in MD, and you can't buy them outside MD because the FFL can't sell them to you; he has to transfer them to a MD FFL, who will refuse to break the law for you.

You want to enjoy these things, move to America.

If you had the foresight, you could have had many of these items had you purchased them before October 2013. Once MD's anti-2A laws a quashed by SCOTUS, that may change. Depends on your expected lifespan.

Send money to MSI (Maryland Shall Issue) and also join them. They're our best hope to win back lost rights.

 

[rbird7282]

No you can't do this legally. You can't buy weapons forbidden by MD in MD, and you can't buy them outside MD because the FFL can't sell them to you; he has to transfer them to a MD FFL, who will refuse to break the law for you.

You want to enjoy these things, move to America.

If you had the foresight, you could have had many of these items had you purchased them before October 2013. Once MD's anti-2A laws a quashed by SCOTUS, that may change. Depends on your expected lifespan.

Send money to MSI (Maryland Shall Issue) and also join them. They're our best hope to win back lost rights.

Long guns don’t need to be transferred to MD to be purchased by a MD resident.


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[Bob A]

Long guns don’t need to be transferred to MD to be purchased by a MD resident.


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I don't think you can buy a MD-forbidden long gun outside the state and bring it in legally. IANAL though.

 

[DanseMacabre]

Here is the link to the Civilian Marksmanship Program. You can buy up to eight Garands per calender year from them. Shipped right to your door.

M1 Garand - Civilian Marksmanship Program

M1 Garand rifles sold by CMP are authentic U.S. Government rifles that have been thoroughly inspected, with a variety of available grades.

thecmp.org

I would recommend you order a Service Grade, $900, for your first Garand.

More details:

CMP - Sale Details

Thanks for pointing them out. Saw them somewhere a while back but didn't give it much mind since I wrongly thought I couldn't buy a Garand.

And to everyone else, just wanted to clarify that the misunderstanding about all the guns I thought were off-limits was 100% my own stupidity. After torturing my grey matter for a bit, I began to recall the original conversation I had with my gunshop guy.

I had checked with him about buying the Springfield M1A1 & was informed it was on the ban list. He then told me the rifle was modeled after the Garand as were the Ruger Mini-14s & 30s or some such thing. I went through some mental gymnastics & made the leap that all of them were on the ban list.

I'm pretty disappointed to learn I can't buy guns I want aside from having a secondary address outside of Maryland (shocked is more like it), but at the same time I'm freakin bouncing off the walls hearing everything I CAN buy having erroneously believed I couldn't. Bout to go on a shopping spree that might put me in the poorhouse. Still though, I hate that MD laws mean my 2A rights are limited everywhere I go.

 

[brianns]

You can buy a Springfield M1A in 6.5 Creedmoor. But not .308win/7.62NATO.

There’s some other brands that may have 6.5 Creedmoor too.

 

[308Scout]

Thanks for pointing them out. Saw them somewhere a while back but didn't give it much mind since I wrongly thought I couldn't buy a Garand.

And to everyone else, just wanted to clarify that the misunderstanding about all the guns I thought were off-limits was 100% my own stupidity. After torturing my grey matter for a bit, I began to recall the original conversation I had with my gunshop guy.

I had checked with him about buying the Springfield M1A1 & was informed it was on the ban list. He then told me the rifle was modeled after the Garand as were the Ruger Mini-14s & 30s or some such thing. I went through some mental gymnastics & made the leap that all of them were on the ban list.

I'm pretty disappointed to learn I can't buy guns I want aside from having a secondary address outside of Maryland (shocked is more like it), but at the same time I'm freakin bouncing off the walls hearing everything I CAN buy having erroneously believed I couldn't. Bout to go on a shopping spree that might put me in the poorhouse. Still though, I hate that MD laws mean my 2A rights are limited everywhere I go.

The bolded paragraph is why you should probably pay more attention to the "political crap" in this state. The MGA is always looking for new and inventive ways to criminalize law-abiding gun owners each year while letting lessening the consequences for actual criminals. If you're not a member of Maryland Shall Issue (MSI), I strongly recommend joining.

Self Defense is a Civil Right

Maryland Shall Issue® (MSI) is an all-volunteer, non-partisan organization dedicated to the preservation and advancement of gun owners' rights in Maryland. It seeks to educate the community about the right of self-protection, the safe handling of firearms, and the responsibility that goes with...

www.marylandshallissue.org

 

[rbird7282]

I don't think you can buy a MD-forbidden long gun outside the state and bring it in legally. IANAL though.

Correct, there's no getting around the banned long gun list in MD other than inheritance.
You can buy a long gun in any other state as long as it is legal in that state and your home state

 

[babalou]

Long guns don’t need to be transferred to MD to be purchased by a MD resident.


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what about long pistols?

 

[eruby]

what about long pistols?

Or long pork?

 

[TexDefender]

I want to buy several rifles prohibited by Maryland's "assault weapons" ban but, like many of you, am not permitted to do so. My question is as follows:

Am I allowed to purchase the prohibited guns outside of the state where it's not illegal & simply store them in a rented locker or will my MD driver's license & residency here force me to be bound by these stupid laws everywhere I go?

Asked my local gun shop owner this & he was stumped. I want a Garand, a Ruger Mini-14, a Ruger Mini-30, a whole slieu of AKs beside a Draco, & many other long guns now forbidden to me. I've wanted them for years & am sick & tired of being denied my 2A right to own them. I'm willing to store them in another state & periodically commute there to enjoy my rifles at a local range. The question I have is am I allowed to do this legally?

Any advice welcome, thanks!

~Danse

Absolutely no! As a Maryland resident you are bound my Maryland firearm laws.

 

[babalou]

Or long pork?

i was referencing that thread where the po pop said someone used a long pistol. lolol

 

[babalou]

the VZs are legal AK Variants... VZ2008, VZ58, etc.

 

[eruby]

i was referencing that thread where the po pop said someone used a long pistol. lolol

Jack Napier approves

 

[Art3]

The bolded paragraph is why you should probably pay more attention to the "political crap" in this state. The MGA is always looking for new and inventive ways to criminalize law-abiding gun owners each year while letting lessening the consequences for actual criminals. If you're not a member of Maryland Shall Issue (MSI), I strongly recommend joining.

Self Defense is a Civil Right

Maryland Shall Issue® (MSI) is an all-volunteer, non-partisan organization dedicated to the preservation and advancement of gun owners' rights in Maryland. It seeks to educate the community about the right of self-protection, the safe handling of firearms, and the responsibility that goes with...

www.marylandshallissue.org

This ^^^^

A little late, but welcome to the fight, OP. Get a friend to join, too.