Sine Die

[Gryphon]

The GA is not one person. A single person will find much more difficult to ignore hundreds of letters piling up on his desk. Nothing ventured nothing gained. I will pen a letter and post for those with the intestinal fortitude of our fore fathers the rest can sit back and b!tch about what never goes their way.

 

[PJDiesel]

Hogan calling himself pro2a IMO doesnt mean he intends to change the status quo as it is. Just means he won't try to make everything illegal and limit capacity to 3rds...

Eghh...... can't agree there. If you're TRUE pro 2A, you're against the shit fugging JOKE of a permitting scheme MD has.

 

[protegeV]

Eghh...... can't agree there. If you're TRUE pro 2A, you're against the shit fugging JOKE of a permitting scheme MD has.

Ahem. Let me clarify. I will agree with your point. It should mean that.

What I was trying to convey is that Hogan specifically, did not insinuate that he would be proactive as far as enacting, repealing, or otherwise reinterpreting any 2a laws or regulations. In the grand scheme he will probably piss off or alienate far more people by doing that, than he will by doing nothing. That's what it means to be a politician, right. Piss off the fewest people you can

 

[redeemed.man]

Ahem. Let me clarify. I will agree with your point. It should mean that.

What I was trying to convey is that Hogan specifically, did not insinuate that he would be proactive as far as enacting, repealing, or otherwise reinterpreting any 2a laws or regulations. In the grand scheme he will probably piss off or alienate far more people by doing that, than he will by doing nothing. That's what it means to be a politician, right. Piss off the fewest people you can

If he does not lead boldly he is destined for 1 term anyway. Shake things up or get shook out. This is about more than just the 2A. He will fail miserably if he doesn't make noise and show the GA he is in charge. So far he gets a C- in my book. Maybe I am being harsh but I am disappointed thus far. Another Erhlich is not what we need. It is time to step on some toes.

 

[protegeV]

If he does not lead boldly he is destined for 1 term anyway. Shake things up or get shook out. This is about more than just the 2A. He will fail miserably if he doesn't make noise and show the GA he is in charge. So far he gets a C- in my book. Maybe I am being harsh but I am disappointed thus far. Another Erhlich is not what we need. It is time to step on some toes.

yeah, I can agree with that as well. I don't get it. Cruise through and hope no one notices you and hope for a second term. Yet get nothing accomplished, change nothing for the better. what's the point ?!?!??!

 

[ericahls]

My feeling on Hogan is as follows. Whether or not he is a one or two term governor doesn't amount to a hill of beans to me. He should serve (1) maybe (2) terms and get the hell out and back to the private sector. No more politics.

Once a politician becomes a career politician, then he is no longer idealistic and pure, he is just another guy trying to keep his job no matter what. Usually at the expense of the people he is supposed to serve.

Gov Hogan CAN'T say he supports the 2nd Amendment and then do NOTHING to make the 2nd amendment more of a reality in MD than it is. If you say he is worried about a second term then I say we already have lost him and he wants to be a career politician, which means we are screwed.

There are many things that he can do, which have all been discussed ad nauseam on this board, to change the 2nd amendment climate in Maryland if he really wanted to. All of which are policy changes requiring NO legislature input what so ever.

On a previous thread I started I indicated that I submitted a request to MSP for restriction modification(all lawful purposes, or wording to that effect) of my current carry permit. So while I wait for their response I am hopeful that Hogan's Superintendent appointment will exercise common sense and honor my request.

If my request is denied then Hogan has made it very clear that a POLITICAL CAREER is more important to him than doing what is right. If the former if true then I have lost all respect for the man.

 

[Gryphon]

Ericahls - you are not alone! A good number of us are in the pipeline under a variety of circumstances. For better or worse we are canaries in the mine shaft, and our results will speak volumes in a sea of silence. Thank you.

 

[MDFF2008]

I just don't understand the defeatism. Hogan's been in office for 3 months, his term goes until 2018.

I'm excited to see what a year in Maryland is going to be like with Hogan. What a year is going to be when he has a chance to fully prepare his budget, instead of something forced on him.

If Maryland hasn't changed by the election of 2018, I'll toast the h8teraid, but for now, I'm going to relax.

 

[protegeV]

I just don't understand the defeatism. Hogan's been in office for 3 months, his term goes until 2018.

I'm excited to see what a year in Maryland is going to be like with Hogan. What a year is going to be when he has a chance to fully prepare his budget, instead of something forced on him.

If Maryland hasn't changed by the election of 2018, I'll toast the h8teraid, but for now, I'm going to relax.

 

[ericahls]

Ericahls - you are not alone! A good number of us are in the pipeline under a variety of circumstances. For better or worse we are canaries in the mine shaft, and our results will speak volumes in a sea of silence. Thank you.

I am glad to be part of an inpatient group

Change only comes when you make enough noise. Keep up the good fight.

 

[ericahls]

I just don't understand the defeatism. Hogan's been in office for 3 months, his term goes until 2018. I'm excited to see what a year in Maryland is going to be like with Hogan. What a year is going to be when he has a chance to fully prepare his budget, instead of something forced on him. If Maryland hasn't changed by the election of 2018, I'll toast the h8teraid, but for now, I'm going to relax.

With all due respect if you wait until 2018 for change then the status quo is what you will be relegated to.

 

[DC-W]

 

[Gryphon]

That is funny. Too bad we aren't talking about candy.

 

[Gryphon]

I am glad to be part of an inpatient group

Inpatience and restoring fundamental rights? I don't see a problem.

 

[montoya32]

 

[rico903]

I don't expect much out of Hogan in respect to 2A but I'm willing to give him more than a few months.

 

[LoneRanger]

I just don't understand the defeatism. Hogan's been in office for 3 months, his term goes until 2018.

I'm excited to see what a year in Maryland is going to be like with Hogan. What a year is going to be when he has a chance to fully prepare his budget, instead of something forced on him.

If Maryland hasn't changed by the election of 2018, I'll toast the h8teraid, but for now, I'm going to relax.

I don't see it as defeatism....just realism...some here act as though Hogan operates totally in a vacuum without benefit of any advisers or without beholding to wealthy donors that helped put him in office......he did not become a successful businessman merely by luck....he does not make rash decisions.....and he had some very well heeled Democrats raising and donating funds to/for his campaign......

 

[Jaybeez]

I don't see it as defeatism....just realism...some here act as though Hogan operates totally in a vacuum without benefit of any advisers or without beholding to wealthy donors that helped put him in office......he did not become a successful businessman merely by luck....he does not make rash decisions.....and he had some very well heeled Gun owners and 2A activists raising and donating funds to/for his campaign......

fixed it for you.

My carry supporting friend just won an award for grassroots organizer of the year, at the mdgop convention in OC. she brought the governor a key victory in an important county.

 

[LoneRanger]

fixed it for you.

My carry supporting friend just won an award for grassroots organizer of the year, at the mdgop convention in OC. she brought the governor a key victory in an important county.

There was no need to fix it....I really can't go into what I know or how I know it because it relates to a confidentiality agreement but will say some here would be extremely surprised at who some of the largest donors were to the Hogan campaign.....there are some extremely wealthy Democrats in this state that make sure they butter both sides of their bread....if Hogan makes self defense a G&S it will be due to those he is beholding to the most giving him the green light.......

 

[AntiGun]

There was no need to fix it....I really can't go into what I know or how I know it because it relates to a confidentiality agreement but will say some here would be extremely surprised at who some of the largest donors were to the Hogan campaign.....there are some extremely wealthy Democrats in this state that make sure they butter both sides of their bread....if Hogan makes self defense a G&S it will be due to those he is beholding to the most giving him the green light.......

more secret squirrel

We're supposed to be shocked that people with big connections donate to both side's campaigns so as to have pull no mater who wins? That's not really a secret, that's just standard practice. Hogan can rise above money politics or he can go shit in his hat.