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  • Gryphon

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    Patriot Picket
    Mar 8, 2013
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    Yes it is acceptable, especially since a bill to change G&S died. You don't think the "will of the people" would be his answer there? . . . We differ there apparently.

    Yes we disagree. You keep characterizing Hogan's promise not to repeal existing gun laws (SB281) with a possible failure on Pollazzi's part to exercise administrative authority to implement revised G&S policies. Pollazzi is not bound to "carry on" as usual, and this is not analogous to OweBummer on immigration. Pollazzi has statutory authority and discretion.

    Moreover, the "will of the people" isn't an acceptable answer when we are talking about fundamental rights, constitutionally enumerated rights, and administrative authority to implement positive change to reduce some of the infringement. If there is no action, and if that turns out to be his excuse, then he never intended to provide any relief, doesn't really care about the Constitution or the 2A, and in my book he lied about being a 2A supporter. But we aren't there yet - just getting closer everyday. I hope all this speculation is for naught.
     

    Schipperke

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    Feb 19, 2013
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    Yes we disagree. You keep characterizing Hogan's promise not to repeal existing gun laws (SB281) with a possible failure on Pollazzi's part to exercise administrative authority to implement revised G&S policies. Pollazzi is not bound to "carry on" as usual, and this is not analogous to OweBummer on immigration. Pollazzi has statutory authority and discretion.

    Moreover, the "will of the people" isn't an acceptable answer when we are talking about fundamental rights, constitutionally enumerated rights, and administrative authority to implement positive change to reduce some of the infringement. If there is no action, and if that turns out to be his excuse, then he never intended to provide any relief, doesn't really care about the Constitution or the 2A, and in my book he lied about being a 2A supporter. But we aren't there yet - just getting closer everyday. I hope all this speculation is for naught.

    Your interpretation of the Constitution would find slander an intolerable tort , breaking your 1A rights.. As far as people extolling they are 2A supporters, I'll defer to this man's explanation of Constitutional rights.

     

    Gryphon

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    Mar 8, 2013
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    Your interpretation of the Constitution would find slander an intolerable tort , breaking your 1A rights.. As far as people extolling they are 2A supporters, I'll defer to this man's explanation of Constitutional rights.



    No, not all. Untrue statements that cause damage to others reputation ought to be actionable. But the government refusing to allow me to speak at all in public would be unconstitutional. Thanks for the video on Scalia. I think he is absolutely right, but it doesn't undermine my position, just bolsters it.
     

    Schipperke

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    Feb 19, 2013
    18,780
    Has anyone written the new MSP super and asked him to define G&S?

    Excellent question. With the luck I have getting replies in our district, the thought of writing Pallozzi never occurred. Has anyone got an answer on this?
     

    Medshot

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    Jul 24, 2013
    238
    Excellent question. With the luck I have getting replies in our district, the thought of writing Pallozzi never occurred. Has anyone got an answer on this?

    Ericahls is waiting for a response on a similar concept, so we'll hear it from them when there's a response...though it may just be something along the lines of "...see the MSP website for the current distinctions of G&S reasoning."
     

    Klunatic

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    Feb 28, 2011
    2,923
    Montgomery Cty
    Ericahls is waiting for a response on a similar concept, so we'll hear it from them when there's a response...though it may just be something along the lines of "...see the MSP website for the current distinctions of G&S reasoning."

    I wonder if we all send the same letter to MSP and demand a distinct objective definition of G&S if we would get a firm response? They can't ignore 100's or 1000's of letter requesting the same thing. Although we may not like the answer we get.
     

    Medshot

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    Jul 24, 2013
    238
    I wonder if we all send the same letter to MSP and demand a distinct objective definition of G&S if we would get a firm response? They can't ignore 100's or 1000's of letter requesting the same thing. Although we may not like the answer we get.

    Addressed directly to Pallozzi...we want answers and we deserve them; you've got the job, now what are you going to do with it?
     

    Bob A

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    Nov 11, 2009
    31,018
    Addressed directly to Pallozzi...we want answers and we deserve them; you've got the job, now what are you going to do with it?

    I think he'd have to defer to his boss's wishes, whatever they might be.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,495
    Westminster USA
    either way, an answer is better than speculation, although politicians of any ilk are loathe to commit one way or the other..
     

    ironpony

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    MDS Supporter
    Jun 8, 2013
    7,274
    Davidsonville
    Yes a letter. Who is our resident letter construction expert. CC Hogan? Or should this be a snail mail endeavor? Enquiring minds want to know. Squeaky wheel and all that.
     

    Gryphon

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    Patriot Picket
    Mar 8, 2013
    6,993
    I think the letter idea is good. Pollazzi likely never sees applications sent to the Licensing Division. So either a dedicated letter to Pollazzi, or a cover letter for an application that is copied to Pollazzi at his office, i.e. submit the letter and app to licensing, and just copy the letter to Pollazzi. This way you can contribute whether you have decided to apply or not. Those not applying can request his position before applying. Those applying can make their respectful argument for approval under self-defense=good and substantial. However, I do belive individually tailored letters will have far more impact than a form letter. There is a lot of good stuff already in these forums that can be assembled into customized letters that each can add their own perspective and experiences to. Snail mail.

    I already did something like this, but it is way to personalized to share and use as form letter. It didn't take long to put together.
     

    Schipperke

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    Feb 19, 2013
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    After hearing Andi use the phrase a couple times, she gives it a nice ring. I may name my next dog sine die.
     

    Klunatic

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 28, 2011
    2,923
    Montgomery Cty
    Maybe including a copy of this story and stating that it would be nice if all citizens could protect their family in a similar manner as this officer was able to.

    http://m.wbaltv.com/news/police-officers-car-stolen-with-specialneeds-child-inside/32444038

    Ummmm NO. This isn't a great representation of a responsible gun owner. For one it was an off duty police officer. Two, I think its pretty reckless to fire a gun in the direction of a fleeing vehicle occupied by your child. I also don't believe the theft of a vehicle and kidnapping is covered in MD as self defense (could be wrong on this point) at least not for your regular Joe. A cop might get away with firing a shot, but you and I would be locked up.
     

    LoneRanger

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    Dec 22, 2009
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    I wonder if we all send the same letter to MSP and demand a distinct objective definition of G&S if we would get a firm response? They can't ignore 100's or 1000's of letter requesting the same thing. Although we may not like the answer we get.

    Sure they can....the GA found it easy to ignore 1000's in 2013...........
     

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