What is your breaking point for a Revolution?

[lawrencewendall]

Don't know if it's a dupe

Be prepared: Wall Street advisor recommends guns, ammo for protection in collapse

http://washingtonexaminer.com/be-pr...mo-for-protection-in-collapse/article/2541205

 

[EL1227]

The antipathy of freedom ...

While America’s founders, who sought to align legislation with “the laws of nature and nature’s God” formed our Constitution and Bill of Rights, the antithesis has been whittling away at the concept of negative law (also known as limited government) ever since. Our founders believed that the sole legitimate purpose of government was to protect the inalienable rights of Americans to be safe in the enjoyment of their life, liberty, and property—in other words, to uphold justice, BUT ...

Forbes.com -
The Legal Positivism Of The Elite: A Slippery Slope Toward Tyranny

To the legal positivist, there are no immutable principles, no moral absolutes. All is relative, and human legislation and regulation are more a matter of convenience or expedience or personal preference than attempts to codify permanent standards of right and wrong.

If law is something malleable and unmoored from immutable principles, then who decides what is legal and illegal? How does a society determine the guidelines that govern how individuals relate to each other?

The unspoken assumption of legal positivism—which is an important pillar of the progressive and socialist ideologies that predominate in the social science departments on most college campuses today—is that the most enlightened members of society should use legislation to design and build a “great society.”

In practice this means that elitists (central planners, social engineers, the high priests of “social justice”) should do whatever is necessary to seize the reins of government for the purpose of telling others what to do (especially with their property) to steer society in “the right” direction.

The Pandora's Box Of Progressivism: Positive Law

When there are no fixed principles, then law becomes a cruel and unjust weapon. Equal treatment before the law is supplanted by cronyism and special interest deals. The governors and governed no longer share equal standing before the law, but the former exalt themselves above the law, and use the law as a tool to oppress and control the latter. The law goes beyond impartial negative rules proscribing what people may not do, and instead dictates to citizens what they must do ...

The classical liberal view of individual rights being primary and justice consisting of government and law being for the purpose of impartially upholding those rights no longer prevails. It has been supplanted by the notion—advanced by progressives, socialists, and adherents of various other illiberal ideologies—that government should act in a positive way to make life better for people.

This is America in the Age of Obama—increasingly divided into feuding classes that strive for privileges at the expense of their neighbors. Such a vicious political tussle leads to corruption and the abuse of power. In such a debased ethical milieu, can we really be surprised as we see various skeletons falling out of Obama’s closet?

Until we decide to return to negative law, impartial justice, and the rule of law, we can expect even more political and economic grief.

We are about to realize the end of their efforts IF we don't take action soon.

 

[Ab_Normal]

We are about to realize the end of their efforts IF we don't take action soon.

You ever see a jumbo jet go into a nose dive? At this point our country is that 'jumbo jet'. The only thing we don't know is how soon the crash will occur.

 

[pcfixer]

EL1227
We are about to realize the end of their efforts IF we don't take action soon.

Ab_Normal
You ever see a jumbo jet go into a nose dive? At this point our country is that 'jumbo jet'. The only thing we don't know is how soon the crash will occur.

Good posts. And I do concur.

 

[pcfixer]

http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/u-s-general-calls-for-massive-march-on-congress-white-house/

 

[Mr H]

http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/u-s-general-calls-for-massive-march-on-congress-white-house/

This is not entirely unlike the thought process behind 2A Tuesday, and what I feel we need to have people do all across the state.

 

[EL1227]

Thread revival

DCClothesline.com -
The Three Stages of a Revolution: The People Are Being Dragged Into the Third Stage

Therefore, it is the duty of every awake American to educate their neighbors, family and friends, whether they want to hear the truth or not. Remember, any kind resistance to tyranny will not succeed unless there is an attitude of defiance towards the tyranny. Tyrants require minions to carry out their tyranny. Education about the present tyranny can lessen the size of the potential minion pool. Again, this is accomplished in stage one.

Considering what we do this makes sense, but the rest is pretty darn depressing except for the author's final caveat.

Read the whole thing after applying tin foil liberally ... or not.

 

[frogman68]

as a wise person once said , those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it

I will take that a step further and use the words of are greatest patriots aka domestic terrorists

If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.

Believe that was Thomas Paine

 

[EL1227]

as a wise person once said , those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it

I will take that a step further and use the words of are greatest patriots aka domestic terrorists

If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.

Believe that was Thomas Paine

Correct, and it goes along with this as you address the great unwashed ...

“Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace! – but there is no peace.” - Patrick Henry

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?

 

[Brooklyn]

Let the left revolt -- they are just dumb enough to do it -- then we will walk in and talk over -- trust me never start a revolution -- plenty of time to get in on the big finish

 

[Dogabutila]

The left has no reason to revolt. They are slowly getting everything they want.

 

[Jim12]

The left has no reason to revolt. They are slowly getting everything they want.

Incrementalism: Don't boil the frog, just keep turning up the heat very slowly.

 

[Brooklyn]

The left has no reason to revolt. They are slowly getting everything they want.

The left has no reason -- they will revolt if we bait them as well as they bait us.

"The cupboard is bare" --- game on..

And they tend to revolt just as they are getting what they 'want'


And why is this -- because they are 2 year old's and everything is never enough. and because temper tantrums seem to work for them -- until they don't

So just stay clam awhile longer ok the wolf is not yet at the door and we are well prepared ,


We think and they just react this is our edge -- lets use it ..

 

[john_bud]

The left has no reason to revolt. They are slowly getting everything they want.

Your definition of slowly differs from mine, given the changes in just the past dozen years....

 

[teratos]

The left has no reason to revolt. They are slowly getting everything they want.

This is EXACTLY what will give the left reason to revolt. They are creating an ever-growing recipient class and a dwindling pool of those to tax support them. This isn't across the nation, but is in the most heavily populated States. They have intentionally created a huge pool of people who are completely unable to support themselves in any way. There will come a time when the left can't offer them what they need to survive in the lives they are accustomed to. They won't have enough money for air conditioning, cable TV etc. They will do what they have always done, but this time they will cut out the middle man. They will take what they are "entitled" to. This will start a revolution.

Maryland is an excellent example. We have a huge recipient class and they are not able to pay for it. They taxed millionaires. They taxed the rain. They are talking about taxing the number of miles you drive. As these are put into place, more and more of the people they need are leaving. Simultaneously, more of the people with their hands out are moving in. It is unsustainable.

 

[Brooklyn]

This is EXACTLY what will give the left reason to revolt. They are creating an ever-growing recipient class and a dwindling pool of those to tax support them. This isn't across the nation, but is in the most heavily populated States. They have intentionally created a huge pool of people who are completely unable to support themselves in any way. There will come a time when the left can't offer them what they need to survive in the lives they are accustomed to. They won't have enough money for air conditioning, cable TV etc. They will do what they have always done, but this time they will cut out the middle man. They will take what they are "entitled" to. This will start a revolution.

Maryland is an excellent example. We have a huge recipient class and they are not able to pay for it. They taxed millionaires. They taxed the rain. They are talking about taxing the number of miles you drive. As these are put into place, more and more of the people they need are leaving. Simultaneously, more of the people with their hands out are moving in. It is unsustainable.

A more detailed discussion of the problem .. thanks ..

Have good fathers day weekend ..

 

[Vic]

Exactly Monster, unsustainable. The house of cards will fall, just when.

My bigger issue is the government response, What will they do, FEMA camps for everyone?
I am hoping it isn't for the prepared.
Then again, there are a few on here I wouldn't mind sharing a FEMA tent with.

Vic

 

[OLM-Medic]

The breaking point was reached long ago for everyone. Morally, I think an uprising should have started long before we were born. Logically, we are all too at peace with our lives to do anything about it.

 

[Rattlesnake46319]

Maryland is an excellent example. We have a huge recipient class and they are not able to pay for it. They taxed millionaires. They taxed the rain. They are talking about taxing the number of miles you drive. As these are put into place, more and more of the people they need are leaving. Simultaneously, more of the people with their hands out are moving in. It is unsustainable.

Think I read this book before. It was about a giant anthropomorphic road map shifting its shoulders. Some Russian broad wrote it.

 

[EL1227]

From a leftist point of view ...

TheGuardian.com
Former CIA case officer Robert David Steele is predicting Arab Spring-style revolutions in the US and UK and that the 1% will be overthrown.

Steele is clearly a leftist radical, and the fact that he criticizes unrestrained corporate capitalism and includes income inequality and climate change in his list of catastrophic trends makes him a kook in my book, but I AM glad he's NOT in the CIA anymore. So, are we headed for bottom-up revolution, as he warns ... or was George Orwell right in predicting that the future of humanity is “a boot stomping on the human face forever” ?