Water Cooler Access

[eddiek2000]

.... Im a quite regular poster and I only have like 10 mortal enemies here on MDS (5 are employees of a Famous Local Indoor Range, One is a Doctor of some type, and the other 4 are Retards).

 

[Spot77]

Its not really about access to the water cooler, thats just what opened up the can of worms. Its the attitude by some that these members are bad because they do not post a lot. There are other ways of contributing besides posting your opinions all over the board. There should be nothing wrong with joining MSI, surfing MD Shooters, and soaking it all up.

It's not that we WANT to exclude anybody from anything. It's that, even with 3 new people to help we can't keep up with everything. We appreciate everything that each member contributes, and I know this will inconvenience some. But after a few months, it won't be an issue as the "new" guys won't know they're missing anything, and the current "new" guys just won't be new anymore.

If somebody wants access (and I hate using the term "access"; it sounds like so authoritarian) because they're following a certain thread, a pm to one of the mods can probably get things put back in order. We know there's a lot of people that contribute in ways other than posts, unfortunately the software doesn't allow us the option of tracking those things.

Everyone just needs to be more active. if you are active youll get a happy ending.

Yeah, as the new guys come onboard they won't even know what they're missing (probably a good thing most of the time ) and maybe a byproduct of this will be that some of the more knowledgeable, but quiet members will share some of their experiences.

I think it's a mistake to read it as "these members are bad because they don't post a lot". I don't think that's the issue that's driving this.

I believe the fact is that there are some anti gun people that register on this site, then search the forum for posts that when taken out of context can harm the gun community in Maryland. This is an attempt to allow some of the off-topic debate without it surfacing elsewhere in ways none of us would like.

I'd hate for members who are getting into the sport to feel it's somehow personally directed at them. You're very welcome here.

ABSOLUTELY. And again, we're juat swamped with stuff going on...even with 6 of us now it's pretty darn hard work keeping up sometimes.

And YES, we can idetify most of the trolls pretty quickly. But we don't ban them because we want them to stay and educate themselves. About guns. Not fat chicks with guns pictures.

how many posts for this happy ending?

No particular post count, but I heard there's a purchase quota at Scott's Gunsmithing

This clandestine guy must have gotten a lot of them by now

Now you're catching on.

 

[accur8shot]

I'm just a young guy who's getting into shooting. I don't have any war stories to share, or 20 years worth of a collection to show off. I contribute when I have something to say, but at the end of the day thats not more than 100 posts a year.

I can't help you on your AK build or tell you the differences between a gen3 and gen4 glock. Maybe I just don't feel like reiterating how fugly high point carbines are on the 7th page of a thread. Most of the time I just like reading what everyone else has to say about things. Thats my personality. If that makes me some evil information farming lurker then I apologize.

Not being able to view the off topic stuff isn't the end of the world, but this whole thing sure feels alienating to the guys with lower post counts. This is a sport/culture/right that needs all the support it can get. Stuff like this just pushes people away. /rant

Dude - very well said. I was in the military, have a pretty unusual collection of firearms, have employed the services of members of this site, and actually could help you with an AR build. With my eyes closed. Not that any of that matters, but as a point of variety....

What matters to me is that, as a guy who posted in the water cooler area recently after lurking for some time, I also feel alienated now that I'm locked out. "Was it something I said?" lol

Whatever the case, too much paranoia. Not enough welcome.

 

[Rattlesnake46319]

Whatever the case, too much paranoia. Not enough welcome.

Keep in mind that a good number of the anti-gun folks in Maryland frequent this forum. It's not so much paranoia as denying intelligence to the enemy.

 

[guthook]

Keep in mind that a good number of the anti-gun folks in Maryland frequent this forum. It's not so much paranoia as denying intelligence to the enemy.

Right. This forum is pretty wide-reaching. Several random gun related Google searches I've personally done have pulled up this site #1 in their listings.

Actually, it's how I found the MD Shooters in the first place.

 

[accur8shot]

Right. This forum is pretty wide-reaching. Several random gun related Google searches I've personally done have pulled up this site #1 in their listings.

Actually, it's how I found the MD Shooters in the first place.

That's because your IP address is geo-tracking you and allowing search and ad results that are in your immediate area to show up first. If you lived in Oregon, some local Oregon gun-related results would show up in your #1 listings if you searched there.

Keep in mind that a good number of the anti-gun folks in Maryland frequent this forum. It's not so much paranoia as denying intelligence to the enemy.

LOL... read that back slowly and tell me if it doesn't sound like an oxymoron at its purest. You're paying too much attention to them and buying into it. Anti-gun folks will be around whether you acknowledge them or not, but when you ignore them, they look like the kook. When you feed into their system, or say things like 'denying intelligence to the enemy', you look like the kook.

 

[aray]

I wonder if you should similarly restrict the Maryland 2A forum? No doubt the opposition lurks in there too & sometimes people are pretty frank with both their opinions and our strategy. Why give the other side even a slight advantage?

 

[accur8shot]

It's not so much paranoia as denying intelligence to the enemy.

And if you keep acting so divisive and sounding this angry, you're giving 'them' reason for arguing against you carrying a gun here.

They aren't 'the enemy'. They are our fellow Americans, and they are incredibly misinformed about CCW, but they aren't the enemy - even in a figurative sense.

What's happening to this country?

 

[fivepointstar]

If you take our "Water Cooler" can we have a soda machine in its place.

 

[august1410]

If you take our "Water Cooler" can we have a soda machine in its place.

No.
You'll be all hopped up on Mountain Dew.

 

[Rattlesnake46319]

That's because your IP address is geo-tracking you and allowing search and ad results that are in your immediate area to show up first. If you lived in Oregon, some local Oregon gun-related results would show up in your #1 listings if you searched there.

Really? Because I haven't lived in Maryland for about 15 months now and I still see MDS come up in the first five results on most gun-related searches.

LOL... read that back slowly and tell me if it doesn't sound like an oxymoron at its purest. You're paying too much attention to them and buying into it. Anti-gun folks will be around whether you acknowledge them or not, but when you ignore them, they look like the kook. When you feed into their system, or say things like 'denying intelligence to the enemy', you look like the kook.

Ya know what, perhaps you and he are both right. Perhaps I'm just a "kook" or I'm just "nuts". Or perhaps I grew up in a state where gun owners aren't treated as pariahs so I realize that Maryland is pretty well ****ed when it comes to owning firearms.

And if you keep acting so divisive and sounding this angry, you're giving 'them' reason for arguing against you carrying a gun here.

They aren't 'the enemy'. They are our fellow Americans, and they are incredibly misinformed about CCW, but they aren't the enemy - even in a figurative sense.

What's happening to this country?

I like you. You remind me of myself when I was young and idealistic.

 

[guthook]

That's because your IP address is geo-tracking you and allowing search and ad results that are in your immediate area to show up first. If you lived in Oregon, some local Oregon gun-related results would show up in your #1 listings if you searched there.

Correct. When Maryland anti-2A types search for fodder, this is what they pull up also.

LOL... read that back slowly and tell me if it doesn't sound like an oxymoron at its purest. You're paying too much attention to them and buying into it. Anti-gun folks will be around whether you acknowledge them or not, but when you ignore them, they look like the kook. When you feed into their system, or say things like 'denying intelligence to the enemy', you look like the kook.

He was just being colorful in his language, but the point is founded in fact. Although, he is a kook.

Welcome to the site. The Water Cooler is just junk posting. The rest of this site is open to view and contains the quality firearms and politics related matter we all seek to either gain knowledge from or pass along.

 

[Rattlesnake46319]

Thanks guthook. Always nice to have an outside opinion.

 

[guthook]

Thanks guthook. Always nice to have an outside opinion.

 

[smokey]

Was this the software that restricted access to the water cooler until it traced a post as coming from the senate or house building in naptown? I'm liking the new changes on here. Don's doing his best to keep this place from going the way of the high road. the member count on this site exploded in the last couple years and started losing what made this site great. May the mod hammer fall like rosie o'donnell down an icy escalator.

 

[organized_mayhem]

I think most of you are missing the bigger picture. In case you have noticed the recent postings about websites being sued for copyright violations due to news articles being posted. Its going to take some time to clean up alot of this here, so MDS doesn't suffer the same fate. By putting up the restrictions it buys time so some lawyer can't just jump on here, create a new account, search and start filing frivolous lawsuits. Though I could be wrong, I believe this was the biggest reason for the changes that was made. MDS did get a letter about a news article that was posted 2 years ago in case someone missed that post.

 

[Huckleberry]

And if you keep acting so divisive and sounding this angry, you're giving 'them' reason for arguing against you carrying a gun here.

They aren't 'the enemy'. They are our fellow Americans, and they are incredibly misinformed about CCW, but they aren't the enemy - even in a figurative sense.

What's happening to this country?

Our fellow Americans, our esteemed oppostion on the left stopping playing fair in 2000 and started a campaign of slander, libel and moral assination of their conservative adversaries which culminated in the 2008 election cycle. You now know it as "Chicago Way" or the Saul Alinsky wing of the Democratic Party.

This same tactics that elected BHO are now being turned against their other favorite agenda items like health care, governmental control of businesses and the crown jewel of their social engineering agenda, Gun Control.

To create their socialist utopia, the must first tear down the individual by eliminating our freedoms and rights to make us a more pliable supplicant for inclusion in their collective society.

What better tool than to take our own thoughts and words so they can twist and mutilate them for their own propaganda to sway the unenlighted and uninformed masses of our fellow citizens?

This is what happened to our country to date but it doesn't have to continue if people simply believe that is "We the People' and not "We the Sheeple".

 

[Rockzilla]

I think most of you are missing the bigger picture. In case you have noticed the recent postings about websites being sued for copyright violations due to news articles being posted

Look around we all know there is a "reason" for lawsuits.. more money for big corporations that "own" the news media. The media is owned by big Corporations who dictate what they are allowed to say, the economy comes to mind also..who is going to "fight" a big Corporation whose backing may be by our very own government, so you settle out of court. Scare tactics always seems to work and if said Corporation is losing $$$ or claims that they are. One news media comes to mind, a company was polluting a river reported by a news network and was sucked up by that same company..

I like our home here may not agree with everything, and how some of the threads seem to go off course, but it adds to everything, sort of keeps you on your toes, and keeps it interesting not boring. Then the next question is why did you join in the first place, was it your honest interest in firearms / shooting / laws and everything else associated with it.

Post counts, restriction to certain sections (private) whether password based, donation based, what ever the means that the Admin sets up, there are sites that a very restrictive and have remained online for years because of this, there are sites that just by saying "thank you" in a reply will get you banned, there is a "thank you button" to click on, some no live links, 3 tries and your gone. Everyone must understand the owner of the site is the one who will eventually pay $$$$ wise for not reacting, we as members will pay not $$$ wise but in a way we will lose our home. All that it takes is one.

To those who have no access to the Water Cooler, it's simple join in, be part of it, contribute, just be part of the "community" we all were "newbies" at one time.

And is unfortunate that our society has come to this...but...

-Rock

 

[Sundazes]

What are the requirements to maintain access? I have not been locked out, but I would like to know. I have been a member here since 06. As others have said, i don't post much either, but participate in other ways. SAF, MSI, MDS logo gear, IP support/purchases, etc. I happen to like the water cooler a lot.
I can certainly understand and agree with the restriction, I think it would be nice to know what is required.

 

[Syzin]

I don't think you realize the third angle. I primarily joined this site because I was interested and wanted to learn more about 2A in Maryland. I'm a new shooter and a lurker because don't have much in the way of information to give, unless you plan on having people with low post counts parrot whatever the last guy said.
I understand the security issue and all, but the Current Events and Water Cooler Section were basically the only places I could have contributed without having years of firearms knowledge under my belt.
You'll go ahead and say that the Water Cooler is something I shouldn't be missing because its full of off-topic threads, but there certainly are a lot of off-topic threads that pertain to 2A here, it IS a shooting forum.