hammer67
Active Member
short question:
Anywhere local (I am member AGC) to try some 20 gauge youth shotguns? such as Mossberg 500 youth super bantam, weatherby SA-08, remington 11-87, browning BPS micro midas
Long details:
I want wife and kids to try some shotgun sports. wife shot sporting clays with me once about 20 years ago. I don't know what gun she used. Don't think it was one of mine as I only have 12's. I borrowed a friends remington 20 gauge 870 youth with 13" LOP and 21" barrel. Haven't tried it yet but have had them mount it to see how it fits. Wife and daughter can mount it fine and weight is OK. Son has trouble as his off hand is nearly straight to reach the fore end when mounted and he therefore has trouble supporting it. I took off the recoil pad to give 12" LOP and that is much better and he can support it and swing it. I am a little concerned that the pump action, even in 20, will kick too much for them. I was considering buying a semi-auto.
Weatherby (SA-08), remington (11-87) or browning (silver hunter micro midas-$$) all have youth models. The Weatherby has 12.5" LOP and 24" barrel, The Remington has "adjustable" LOP and 21" barrel. I am not confident in answers from Remington what this means, but I think 13 min with 1" adjustment. The Browning has 13" LOP and 26" barrel (like the longer barrel). What I really considered was getting full size Weatherby or Remington (for the barrel length 26" or 28") and then buy the youth stock (less than $100) so that as the kids grow can put on original stock and will have a better gun long term with longer barrel. and I would have to cut the stock down for son, and perhaps rig up some kind of quick change system to add some length for wife and daughter, if the shorter length too small for them. But I would have some challenges in getting a gun. Here is their info:
wife
5' 4" about 130lb
right handed
right eye dominant
daughter
age: 14 (15 in 3 months)
5' 5" about 115lb
right handed
left eye dominant
son
age: 12 1/2
5' 3" about 90lb
left handed
left eye dominant
you can see the issue given the handedness and eye dominance variations and small stature. If they could handle a pump, a bottom ejecting browning bps micro midas with 13" LOP and 24"or 26" barrel would be good choice. Mossberg 500 youth super bantam with adjustable LOP of 12"-13" and 22" barrel another option and they have a left handed model. given cheaper price could get 1 right and 1 left for about same as 1 BPS, but short barrel would be limiting as get older?
But if can't handle pump, getting a semi-auto may be hard since I don't know if want any of them shooting one off-handed and possibly getting hit with hot gas, powder residue or spent hulls and turning them off to shooting. and price would make it hard to get 2!
Anywhere local (I am member AGC) to try some 20 gauge youth shotguns? such as Mossberg 500 youth super bantam, weatherby SA-08, remington 11-87, browning BPS micro midas
Long details:
I want wife and kids to try some shotgun sports. wife shot sporting clays with me once about 20 years ago. I don't know what gun she used. Don't think it was one of mine as I only have 12's. I borrowed a friends remington 20 gauge 870 youth with 13" LOP and 21" barrel. Haven't tried it yet but have had them mount it to see how it fits. Wife and daughter can mount it fine and weight is OK. Son has trouble as his off hand is nearly straight to reach the fore end when mounted and he therefore has trouble supporting it. I took off the recoil pad to give 12" LOP and that is much better and he can support it and swing it. I am a little concerned that the pump action, even in 20, will kick too much for them. I was considering buying a semi-auto.
Weatherby (SA-08), remington (11-87) or browning (silver hunter micro midas-$$) all have youth models. The Weatherby has 12.5" LOP and 24" barrel, The Remington has "adjustable" LOP and 21" barrel. I am not confident in answers from Remington what this means, but I think 13 min with 1" adjustment. The Browning has 13" LOP and 26" barrel (like the longer barrel). What I really considered was getting full size Weatherby or Remington (for the barrel length 26" or 28") and then buy the youth stock (less than $100) so that as the kids grow can put on original stock and will have a better gun long term with longer barrel. and I would have to cut the stock down for son, and perhaps rig up some kind of quick change system to add some length for wife and daughter, if the shorter length too small for them. But I would have some challenges in getting a gun. Here is their info:
wife
5' 4" about 130lb
right handed
right eye dominant
daughter
age: 14 (15 in 3 months)
5' 5" about 115lb
right handed
left eye dominant
son
age: 12 1/2
5' 3" about 90lb
left handed
left eye dominant
you can see the issue given the handedness and eye dominance variations and small stature. If they could handle a pump, a bottom ejecting browning bps micro midas with 13" LOP and 24"or 26" barrel would be good choice. Mossberg 500 youth super bantam with adjustable LOP of 12"-13" and 22" barrel another option and they have a left handed model. given cheaper price could get 1 right and 1 left for about same as 1 BPS, but short barrel would be limiting as get older?
But if can't handle pump, getting a semi-auto may be hard since I don't know if want any of them shooting one off-handed and possibly getting hit with hot gas, powder residue or spent hulls and turning them off to shooting. and price would make it hard to get 2!