VP Harris - white house initiative issue

[K31]

You guys are missing the point.

If she's put on something she inevitably fails at it.

I don't see a downside.

 

[mpollan1]

Her ineptitude aside, the border is a problem they do not want to solve. Firearm ownership is a "problem" they want to solve. Only thing standing in their way is the SCOTUS. Where do you think we would be if HRC was POTUS in 2016.

 

[csanc123]

yes people who are proven to have hallucination issues, or PTSD form the war should be kept away from weapons. They might see a stranger on the road with cell phone and see it as a taliban calling in for bomb activations

A diagnosis of PTSD does not mean one is a danger to society.

If someone is having hallucinations..they should be treated.

 

[teratos]

A diagnosis of PTSD does not mean one is a danger to society.

If someone is having hallucinations..they should be treated.

In fact, mental illness itself is not associated with a higher incidence of violence than the general population….except when substance abuse is present.

 

[jrumann59]

unless we're ruled by a dictorator mental illness is determined by a 3rd party unbias psychiatrist.

Did you know schizophrenia no longer exists as a disorder based on the manual these "unbiased" professionals reference. Also transgender is no longer a mental disorder. So tell me how are these "unbiased" professionals going to help.

 

[Afrikeber]

yes people who are proven to have hallucination issues, or PTSD form the war should be kept away from weapons. They might see a stranger on the road with cell phone and see it as a taliban calling in for bomb activations

Nope sorry IF banning someone from firearms due to mental illness is a solution it must need to be more sophisticated then just a blanket PSTD diagnosis. The problem lies in the lack of good and extensive medical care. We are now as a country experiencing the results of shutting down mental institutions in the early eighties during the Reagan administration forward.

Merica is no different then any other country as far as mentally ill people in their demographics except for the LACK of available resources that WE have for them. Yes we have the 2nd Amendment that others do not but that is more the reason we should have extensive mental health care regardless of availability to pay for as long as it’s needed without restrictions on length and level of care. It will be COSTLY but it really is the only compromise we have. Unless of course you believe in CONFISCATION which I do not.

 

[KJackson]

One thing that has bothered me is the blanket of "mental disorders" as a disqualifier for gun ownership. My wife has been treated in the past for eating disorders to include inpatient treatment to the extent that I believe that she has lost her right to ownership, but since she has no interest in ever owning a gun she is not worried.

 

[teratos]

Did you know schizophrenia no longer exists as a disorder based on the manual these "unbiased" professionals reference. Also transgender is no longer a mental disorder. So tell me how are these "unbiased" professionals going to help.

Schizophrenia subtypes (paranoid, disorganized, catatonic, undifferentiated, and residual types) were removed because they are useless in guiding management. Schizophrenia isn’t going anywhere.

“Transsexualism” was replaced with “Gender Identity Disorder”. The criteria remain the same.

 

[gamer_jim]

Why would anyone take her seriously?

She's a stooge picked to be VP so she can read a script for whatever the global elitists put in front of her. They know they can't force us to submit as long as we still have guns.

 

[outrider58]

Why would anyone take her seriously?

She's a stooge picked to be VP so she can read a script for whatever the global elitists put in front of her. They know they can't force us to submit as long as we still have guns.

It would probably help, if she could read.

 

[River02]

It would probably help, if she could read.

Hmm...and here I understood her to be the head of her class--

 

[outrider58]

Hmm...and here I understood her to the head of her class--

...the best head in her class.

 

[River02]

...the best head in her class.

Ahhh...

 

[aznboi87]

Nope sorry IF banning someone from firearms due to mental illness is a solution it must need to be more sophisticated then just a blanket PSTD diagnosis. The problem lies in the lack of good and extensive medical care. We are now as a country experiencing the results of shutting down mental institutions in the early eighties during the Reagan administration forward.

Merica is no different then any other country as far as mentally ill people in their demographics except for the LACK of available resources that WE have for them. Yes we have the 2nd Amendment that others do not but that is more the reason we should have extensive mental health care regardless of availability to pay for as long as it’s needed without restrictions on length and level of care. It will be COSTLY but it really is the only compromise we have. Unless of course you believe in CONFISCATION which I do not.

So you believe if someone passed a basic 10 minute backgroud check for an AR15 but later find out he's suffering for severe PTSD from the war to a point he's hearing things and hallucination, or he's suffering from mental disorder like schizophrenia (with cases of violence), psychosis, bipolar, etc he should keep his guns? Yes l believe if you later developed violent mental disorder and does not have the finanial means to seak treatment, your weapons should be confiscated. Even yes you are law abiding citizen. Even people who are trying their best to manage it without medical treatment/medical intervention, you might fall into an episode where you cannot even control yourself. Some one with schiophrenia, or PTDS, might confused kids walking around in the neighborhood, with terrorist kids walkinga round with AK pointing at you.
off course some of mental disorders should not be a factor like anxiety disorder, eating disorder, more non voilent ones.

 

[linkstate]

So you believe if someone passed a basic 10 minute backgroud check for an AR15 but later find out he's suffering for severe PTSD from the war to a point he's hearing things and hallucination, or he's suffering from mental disorder like schizophrenia (with cases of violence), psychosis, bipolar, etc he should keep his guns? Yes l believe if you later developed violent mental disorder and does not have the finanial means to seak treatment, your weapons should be confiscated. Even yes you are law abiding citizen. Even people who are trying their best to manage it without medical treatment/medical intervention, you might fall into an episode where you cannot even control yourself. Some one with schiophrenia, or PTDS, might confused kids walking around in the neighborhood, with terrorist kids walkinga round with AK pointing at you.
off course some of mental disorders should not be a factor like anxiety disorder, eating disorder, more non voilent ones.

You are combining several different mental health issues together.

Just because someone is diagnosed with PTSD does not automatically mean they are a danger to themselves or others.

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www.ptsd.va.gov

If you want to cause or increase a stigma with a guaranteed loss of rights which would result in less people seeking help to better their lives, that would be a good way to do it…

 

[Chat-Bot]

You might be a lib if you drive a subaru. Many libs are mentally unstable. There might be a link.

 

[teratos]

You might be a lib if you drive a subaru. Many libs are mentally unstable. There might be a link.

Blaster229 drives a Subaru. On the phone with the police getting an ERPO right now…

 

[pcfixer]

Blaster229 drives a Subaru. On the phone with the police getting an ERPO right now…

SMH

 

[fishgutzy]

You want medical records tied to the background checks?

I personally do not...gov is weaponized enough.

Obamacare gave gov't access to all medical records with the electronic medical records mandate. Though universal access has not happened yet.
Big Gov't pols are going to abuse this access once it goes live.

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[rbird7282]

And what happens when the government decides that voting republican is a mental illness

Lol, they already have


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