The myth of "overlubrication"

[Magnumite]

I imagine it happened in the sandbox. Its combat. "Oops, stop shooting I dropped my M4. I'll clean the sand out then we can continue," wouldn't apply there.

 

[a216vcti]

Can we get someone to clearly state, for the record, what is the myth of overlubrication for n00bs like myself?


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[Boom Boom]

It means don't be the guy who runs the rifle too dry. Running dry is when AR-15s tend to run into reliability issues.

 

[teratos]

When I'm done cleaning I put grease where I need to. Then I dip my BCG into some Mobil 1 and put it in the rifle.

 

[Kilroy]

This "oil attracts dirt" thing needs to die too.
Simple question: What has less friction, oily dirt or dry dirt?
Oil prevents the dirt that's already on/in the gun to move around, dry dirt is like sandpaper.

 

[lee2]

so in a sustained fire fight. which gas tube would melt first? ar or ak?

 

[smokey]

so in a sustained fire fight. which gas tube would melt first? ar or ak?

Neither. The superior accuracy of the AR and training of 'muricans would lead to many AK's dropped on the ground long before the gas tube of either would melt.

 

[Magnumite]

^^^^ AMEN!

 

[aquaman]

Neither. The superior accuracy of the AR and training of 'muricans would lead to many AK's dropped on the ground long before the gas tube of either would melt.

AK accuracy is about the same as an AR under 100m with military ammo. If the AR has optics different story

 

[smokey]

It's true, the AK is a good weapon. Of course.... Mikhail Kalashnikov's last efforts before dying were to make the AK more like the AR....sooooooooo....

 

[lee2]

It's true, the AK is a good weapon. Of course.... Mikhail Kalashnikov's last efforts before dying were to make the AK more like the AR....sooooooooo....
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so....no gas tube....

 

[OrbitalEllipses]

I was arguing with someone today who swore that lubricating 1911's was a bad, bad thing.

Dry 1911 is like a dry blo---er, well, you get the idea.

 

[BenL]

Only thing I wonder about is that I recall reading somewhere that too much lube in the chamber area can interfere with the cartridge case "obdurating" (I believe that's the term) against the chamber walls, leading to increased thrust on the bolt face. Any comments? Seems like on a blowback action especially that could cause trouble.

On a 50 Beowulf case, this can happen (pretty predictably.) A lot of lube on the chamber walls prohibits the case from its "stick", causing the case to slip and crush the angled area just above the rebated rim. This changes the case dimensions and can lead too issues.

That being said, I think it's a pretty rare issue for most other cartridges. I heavily lube all of my ARs, except for the .22LR. That just seems to gum up after a few hundred rounds, when I lube it.

 

[5.56blaster]

Anyone remember going to the range with M60's and pouring green bottles of lube into them. More is better, just a bitch to clean.

 

[BossmanPJ]

I have always went heavy with lube. Personal and professional. I never understood the concept of less lubrication on metal to metal contact.

 

[llkoolkeg]

I have always went heavy with lube. Personal and professional. I never understood the concept of less lubrication on metal to metal contact.

You're not a robot...are you?

 

[lee2]

I have always went heavy with lube. Personal and professional. I never understood the concept of less lubrication on metal to metal contact.

heavy lube can slow down an action to a point where it wont function properly.

 

[Z_Man]

heavy lube can slow down an action to a point where it wont function properly.

if you lube it enough to turn the action into a damper....

 

[dist1646]

Just what you need, a face full of lube and smoke all over the place. I'll leave it to the "experts" to shoot guns totally drenched in lube.

 

[Warpspasm]

+1

and spray bottles of Ballistol

The problem with Ballistol is it smells like dead things.