The myth of "overlubrication"

[smokey]

but, but nickel boron can be run dry right? especially after being treated with militec... the future of small arms lubricitaihhhhh

 

[Pretoria78]

but, but nickel boron can be run dry right? especially after being treated with militec... the future of small arms lubricitaihhhhh

I've got a Fail Zero BCG banging around in an upper, and I lube it like I would a standard one. It does nothing "better", IMO, and I regret wasting the coin on it.

 

[clandestine]

That's been my experience as well. In fact, my issued M4 was more reliable than a Type II AK that we had.

I used to believe that AKM's were more reliable than an AR till I became a Smith and saw first hand how a properly built AR will run. It also taught me to stay away from "improved" AR Piston Systems as they only make it harder to find proprietary parts, are more finnicky, and really suppress no better.

AK's are made all over the world by various countries but many bolt components are not compatible making it a little tricky to repair one in a pinch. With AK's I mainly saw issues with bolt heads, firing pins, and extractors

 

[Pretoria78]

AK's are made all over the world by various countries but many bolt components are not compatible making it a little tricky to repair one in a pinch. With AK's I mainly saw issues with bolt heads, firing pins, and extractors

A friend of mine was an armorer on a contract in Basrah and echoed your sentiments exactly. He had AK's in the armory from Iraq, Yugoslavia and various East Bloc nations, and there were compatibility issues galore.

 

[aquaman]

Glock will fail if overlubed

Never would have believed it

 

[aquaman]

A friend of mine was an armorer on a contract in Basrah and echoed your sentiments exactly. He had AK's in the armory from Iraq, Yugoslavia and various East Bloc nations, and there were compatibility issues galore.

To be fair the only thing required to interchange is magazines.

 

[Pretoria78]

To be fair the only thing required to interchange is magazines.

Unless you're rebuilding guns with parts from unservicable weapons, coupled with a difficult host nation government that makes getting shit hard.

 

[lsw]

Only thing I wonder about is that I recall reading somewhere that too much lube in the chamber area can interfere with the cartridge case "obdurating" (I believe that's the term) against the chamber walls, leading to increased thrust on the bolt face. Any comments? Seems like on a blowback action especially that could cause trouble.

 

[smokey]

Only thing I wonder about is that I recall reading somewhere that too much lube in the chamber area can interfere with the cartridge case "obdurating" (I believe that's the term) against the chamber walls, leading to increased thrust on the bolt face. Any comments? Seems like on a blowback action especially that could cause trouble.

It's also possible that it could kill the primer on some loads. These would be covered under improperly lubing the gun, as the inside of the chamber and breech face don't really need lube.

 

[Venge]

I'll submit this for everyone's consideration.

AR15s are not finicky maintenance queens

Lol, love it! Thanks for posting this.

 

[Combloc]

HAHA!! Lots of kool aid drinking going on here. Don't forget to add more sugar!

 

[Venge]

HAHA!! Lots of kool aid drinking going on here. Don't forget to add more sugar!

What'd I miss?

 

[Combloc]

I used to believe that AKM's were more reliable than an AR till I became a Smith and saw first hand how a properly built AR will run.

AK's are made all over the world by various countries but many bolt components are not compatible making it a little tricky to repair one in a pinch. With AK's I mainly saw issues with bolt heads, firing pins, and extractors

So you're telling me that AR parts made by all the various countries will 100% interchange?? This stuff is laughable!!

The day an AR is as or more reliable than a real arsenal built AK is the day that Christ returns.

 

[Seagrave1963]

 

[clandestine]

So you're telling me that AR parts made by all the various countries will 100% interchange?? This stuff is laughable!!

The day an AR is as or more reliable than a real arsenal built AK is the day that Christ returns.

I'm in the U.S. and yes unless it's some bastardized AR all parts will interchange.

AK'S in the U.S. are from all parts of the world.

I wish I had time to make a wager with your best against mine. I'll just let Mr Vickers opinion and my experience actually working on things comfort me. Perhaps you can write another piece about beating up WW2 clones with a mallet. That's some skill there.

You win.

 

[nedsurf]

Does the same lubrication idea apply if one is stationed guarding places like the missile towers in North Dakota or anywhere in Alaska through the winter?

 

[clandestine]

Does the same lubrication idea apply if one is stationed guarding places like the missile towers in North Dakota or anywhere in Alaska through the winter?

Arctic conditions are different. The wrong lube will lock up any firearm in Arctic conditions.

 

[Boom Boom]

unless it's some bastardized AR all parts will interchange.

I have a non-standard bastardized one in my collection from way back when. Learned the hard way. Would never buy such a thing again.

 

[ken792]

Only thing I wonder about is that I recall reading somewhere that too much lube in the chamber area can interfere with the cartridge case "obdurating" (I believe that's the term) against the chamber walls, leading to increased thrust on the bolt face. Any comments? Seems like on a blowback action especially that could cause trouble.

Yes, it's described in Hatcher's Notebook. It can be dangerous in some cases like bad headspace allowing the case to accelerate back, weak lugs, etc.

 

[Skins_Brew]

I would like to see them drop the gun in the sand and try it...