Teacher Suspended for Displaying Garden-Variety Tools in Classroom

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  • KL1

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    Feb 6, 2013
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    So, I was stunned by this initially, too. But there's a link in the article to the actual lawsuit that he has filed, and in the part that sums up the circumstances, it makes it clear that one of the "tools" he displayed was a pocket knife, and he was suspended for the pocket knife, not the tools. I'm still no big fan of zero tolerance policies, but it would seem reality in this case is not quite as absurd as this article makes it sound.
    https://www.rutherford.org/files_images/general/04-22-2013_Bartlett-Complaint.pdf
     

    rseymorejr

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    Feb 28, 2011
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    So, I was stunned by this initially, too. But there's a link in the article to the actual lawsuit that he has filed, and in the part that sums up the circumstances, it makes it clear that one of the "tools" he displayed was a pocket knife, and he was suspended for the pocket knife, not the tools. I'm still no big fan of zero tolerance policies, but it would seem reality in this case is not quite as absurd as this article makes it sound.
    https://www.rutherford.org/files_images/general/04-22-2013_Bartlett-Complaint.pdf

    Oh, it was a pocket knife. Maybe they should have called the swat team :lol2:
     

    Inigoes

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    Dec 21, 2008
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    So, I was stunned by this initially, too. But there's a link in the article to the actual lawsuit that he has filed, and in the part that sums up the circumstances, it makes it clear that one of the "tools" he displayed was a pocket knife, and he was suspended for the pocket knife, not the tools. I'm still no big fan of zero tolerance policies, but it would seem reality in this case is not quite as absurd as this article makes it sound.
    https://www.rutherford.org/files_images/general/04-22-2013_Bartlett-Complaint.pdf

    A pocket knife rationalization makes it no less absurd.
     

    Traveler

    Lighten up Francis
    Jan 18, 2013
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    AA County
    So, I was stunned by this initially, too. But there's a link in the article to the actual lawsuit that he has filed, and in the part that sums up the circumstances, it makes it clear that one of the "tools" he displayed was a pocket knife, and he was suspended for the pocket knife, not the tools. I'm still no big fan of zero tolerance policies, but it would seem reality in this case is not quite as absurd as this article makes it sound.
    https://www.rutherford.org/files_images/general/04-22-2013_Bartlett-Complaint.pdf

    Did the knife have a high capacity clip and a thing that goes up?
     

    Boom Boom

    Hold my beer. Watch this.
    Jul 16, 2010
    16,834
    Carroll
    Did the knife have a high capacity clip and a thing that goes up?

    It has a bottle opener goes up. The bottle opener is what put it over the top and got him suspended. He's lucky it didn't have a cork remover. Dude would have been SWAT'd for that.
     

    webb297

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    Dec 29, 2010
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    Bowie
    If the school has a no knife policy, and you knowingly bring a knife in, you have violated the policy and there should be consequences. Now a debate on weather or not a pocket knife should be on a banned list, is another question all together. I believe, in this society today, it should be banned in a juvenile educational environment, because if we do not allow the children to bring them, then neither should the teacher. If it were just gardening tools, that would be ridiculous.
     

    Brickerenator

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    Nov 10, 2008
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    Frederick, MD
    If the school has a no knife policy, and you knowingly bring a knife in, you have violated the policy and there should be consequences. Now a debate on weather or not a pocket knife should be on a banned list, is another question all together. I believe, in this society today, it should be banned in a juvenile educational environment, because if we do not allow the children to bring them, then neither should the teacher. If it were just gardening tools, that would be ridiculous.

    Unfortunately, I agree.

    This is why most HR textbooks don't advise the use of zero-tolerance policies. Why? You MUST enforce them in EVERY instance, regardless of other factors. If they didn't suspend this teacher, and suspended a different teacher for bringing a pocket knife on campus, they open themselves to a discrimination lawsuit.

    It's sad, but it's true.
     

    Right2Carry

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    Feb 27, 2009
    695
    District 32
    If the school has a no knife policy, and you knowingly bring a knife in, you have violated the policy and there should be consequences. Now a debate on weather or not a pocket knife should be on a banned list, is another question all together. I believe, in this society today, it should be banned in a juvenile educational environment, because if we do not allow the children to bring them, then neither should the teacher. If it were just gardening tools, that would be ridiculous.

    A policy is no different than a law. It only provides guidance and judgment.
     

    wreckdiver

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    Nov 13, 2008
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    WTF is out world coming to? I brought my dad's 1861 musket to school in 8th grade for a social studies report. The funny thing is the teacher said I could bring it in if I took the firing pin out. I tried explaining that there was no "firing pin" on an 1861 Springfield musket, but it was useless.
     

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