School me on HBAR AR-15s

[marylandondeck]

whats the difference between a regular AR-15 and a HBAR? why is one regulated and one un-regulated? thanks in advance for any and all answers!

 

[MJD438]

The Search button in the top menu bar of the forums can be your friend here - do a search on HBAR and plenty of topics will come up to provide a baseline of research.

 

[mvee]

whats the difference between a regular AR-15 and a HBAR? why is one regulated and one un-regulated? thanks in advance for any and all answers!

Someone will be along to answer the question. Just remember not to try to make sense out of Maryland's laws....

 

[BSAN]

The Search button in the top menu bar of the forums can be your friend here - do a search on HBAR and plenty of topics will come up to provide a baseline of research.

This

 

[kalister1]

H-bar is simply Heavy Barrel. "Regular" barrels have a taper to them, H-BARs do not.

As to why? I have no clue, just STUPID MARYLAND LAWS!

 

[Markp]

whats the difference between a regular AR-15 and a HBAR? why is one regulated and one un-regulated? thanks in advance for any and all answers!

Do a search...

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=40990
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=95809

In the end, you'll realize that nothing makes sense about regulated vs unregulated firearms.

Here is a picture of an unregulated rifle to help you wrap your head around the issue.

 

[Echo]

H-bar is simply Heavy Barrel. "Regular" barrels have a taper to them, H-BARs do not.

As to why? I have no clue, just STUPID MARYLAND LAWS!

Weight.

 

[Lapua Dan]

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[BUFF7MM]

Weight.

? If your talking about an HBAR weighing more than a regulated AR-15, I've got a regulated AR 20" that weighs more than my HBAR 16" not by much but it is more.

 

[Markp]

Any chance you could mount that on a Segway? That would be one hell of a killing machine. Oh, sorry, I mean unregulated target and competition firearm.

Yes, but it looked better mounted on the mini-cooper as a technical vehicle.

 

[jonnyl]

I believe Maryland's logic (which shouldn't be confused with regular logic) was that a regular AR-15 is a baby killing self-guided assault weapon that kills, and an HBAR is a target rifle used exclusively for paper shooting.

Probably some kind of back-room "deal".....

 

[marylandondeck]

Do a search...

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=40990
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=95809

In the end, you'll realize that nothing makes sense about regulated vs unregulated firearms.

Here is a picture of an unregulated rifle to help you wrap your head around the issue.

Fair enough. I should've searched.

 

[Echo]

? If your talking about an HBAR weighing more than a regulated AR-15, I've got a regulated AR 20" that weighs more than my HBAR 16" not by much but it is more.

Its something to do with the Colt HBAR being for marksmanship matches. The heavier barrels are more accurate for sporting.

 

[BUFF7MM]

Its something to do with the Colt HBAR being for marksmanship matches. The heavier barrels are more accurate for sporting.

Heavy is a reference to the thickness of the barrel, not the weight of the barrel.

 

[midcountyg]

Colt competition HBAR was the preferred firearm of match shooters at the time the list was written. Many shooters in these sanctioned matches were under the age of 21. To make those rifles regulated would have made it illegal for shooters under 21 to purchase and own their sporting rifles to participate in organized matches. To keep the peace with the NRA, MSP agreed to the HBAR exemption. Now, under current interpretation any AR with a heavy barrel is considered nonregulated.

 

[Goose Guy]

Any chance you could mount that on a Segway? That would be one hell of a killing machine. Oh, sorry, I mean unregulated target and competition firearm.

Someone needs to make this happen.

 

[ken792]

You can mount an M203 grenade launcher on a regular AR with an A1, A2, or M4 profiled barrel, but not an HBAR.

 

[Threeband]

Colt competition HBAR was the preferred firearm of match shooters at the time the list was written. Many shooters in these sanctioned matches were under the age of 21. To make those rifles regulated would have made it illegal for shooters under 21 to purchase and own their sporting rifles to participate in organized matches. To keep the peace with the NRA, MSP agreed to the HBAR exemption. Now, under current interpretation any AR with a heavy barrel is considered nonregulated.

This is your answer. I wish this post could be made a sticky or something.



The "Regulated List" reflects the situation about 25 years ago. Back then, there weren't 43 different manufacturers offering 1217 variations on AR type rifles. My 1987 Gun Digest lists only four ARs, all made by Colt. There was an A2 style rifle, a carbine, a 9mm carbine, and the HBAR. The first three were designed as Poodle Killing Machines, while the HBAR was useless for anything but shooting paper in rigorously organized and regulated competitions.

 

[rwbow1969]

Yet another pic of an unregulated firearm. Quick nics check and out the door. My deer rifle.

 

[JDH146]

This is your answer. I wish this post could be made a sticky or something.



The "Regulated List" reflects the situation about 25 years ago. Back then, there weren't 43 different manufacturers offering 1217 variations on AR type rifles. My 1987 Gun Digest lists only four ARs, all made by Colt. There was an A2 style rifle, a carbine, a 9mm carbine, and the HBAR. The first three were designed as Poodle Killing Machines, while the HBAR was useless for anything but shooting paper in rigorously organized and regulated competitions.

FFL's have different opinions on what an H-Bar is and may want to sell what you think is unregulated as regulated. If you disagree with their opinion, either accept it or look elsewhere . Their shop-Their rule. Arguing your opinion is a waste of time.