Raineman
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It'll be time.Then what?
It'll be time.Then what?
Click on link below, to read post #84.Where can we get non-legal verbiage on what just happened? I get that we can carry still in public places and restaurants..what didn’t get overturned? I see someone mention state parks.. can we carry there now?
It does seem, from reading the various law related threads, there are a number of folks who got their permits but didn’t do their reading homework.
Where can we get non-legal verbiage on what just happened? I get that we can carry still in public places and restaurants..what didn’t get overturned? I see someone mention state parks.. can we carry there now?
You left out the part about choking on them....It means WaldstreiKKKer can eat a bag of dicks.
If you do fart in church, you may end up sitting in your own pew.Just don't fart in church.
Ahhhh, I didn't read far enough through the thread to see the option that was better than merely eating a bag.I’d be happier to see him choke on a bag of dicks.
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Huh.And, no - State Parks are not part of the PI and are still no-go for carry.
Wouldn't that require the state to overhaul their entire permit system since the current law allows either and the permit isn't called a concealed carry permit it's called a wear and carry permit.My W&C class required me to write a 1200 word book report on The Last of the Mohicans. Does that count?
Nothing got overturned. This just prevents some parts of the law from being enforced until the actual cases are settled in court. The judge is saying that those parts, private property carry etc. are such obvious slam dunks to be overturned that he is ordering they not be enforced until then.
Other parts he considers more debatable, so he's allowing them to be enforced even before the final decision. For instance, he thinks the open carry ban will pass constitutional muster.
I disagree and this type of thought is what get's us to where we are now. These businesses are open to the public, therefore they are public, not private and they are not allowed to infringe on the rest of the rights we have in public. If you are legally carrying, they are not allowed to infringe upon that, just as if you are legally using your 1st Amendment rights, they may not infringe upon that. Telling someone they are not allowed to carry in a business is akin to telling someone they are not allowed to speak if they enter your business or making them wear tape over their mouth. Not being allowed to yell fire in a crowded place or protest, or cause a ruckus is not preventing you from doing it, it makes it illegal, there is nothing physically preventing you from doing so. There are laws against using a firearm illegally, just as there are your voice. Your home, your private land are not public, make whatever rules you want for entry there.The 2A prevents Govt. Infringement. Private business can do as they please
See my reply to swinokur, I couldn't get the dang multi-reply to work.On private property? That's a little tricky. Sort of like the 1A doesn't guarantee you can spend your day in someone's private business screaming political screeds at the top of your lungs or even just politely but creepily proselytizing someone's customers. There's a difference between "no black people allowed" and "no hoodies that hide your face while you're in my place of business." I'd like to preserve the right to tell people to get out of my private property if I don't like their conduct or bearing, and so I can't very well complain when another person wants the same. Hence the "don't carry here" signs followed up by invoking trespass if someone won't leave, that's not incoherent, philosophically. Forcing me to put up a "you can carry here" sign certainly is.
My friend, we are the militia.Form my own militia?
No, the current law as of 10/1 prohibits open carry.Wouldn't that require the state to overhaul their entire permit system since the current law allows either and the permit isn't called a concealed carry permit it's called a wear and carry permit.
I beleive the quote is "The whole of the people"My friend, we are the militia.
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for few public officials." (George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426)I beleive the quote is "The whole of the people"