SAM7K

[SevernBob]

Anyone own one? Thoughts? I'm shopping for one more evil gun and need another 7.62x39 shooter to round things out. I haven't looked too much, but so far KVAR appears to have the best price as far as today's prices go. http://www.k-var.com/shop/SAM7K.html Of course, Cheaper Than Dirt has the highest price I've seen so far. I looked up dirt.com and it has nothing to do with selling weapons or supplies.

 

[Markp]

There is no way on God's green earth that I would pay $1200 for an AK pistol, but at least it's milled! That's just me.

 

[iHasCrabs]

I don't think they are on the approved handgun roster and therefore you can't buy an ak pistol in our lovely state, unless you get it sbrd and transferred in I believe...I could be wrong though

 

[armed ferret]

Anyone own one?

Nobody in MD owns one. and you won't either.

 

[SevernBob]

Nobody in MD owns one. and you won't either.

Dah. You could have let me down more gently. Back to watching SGLs.

 

[Markp]

Dah. You could have let me down more gently. Back to watching SGLs.

Get it sent to Engage and have them AOW it, then you can have it, but you'll have to pay the ATF their $5 tax stamp.

You can't get an AK pistol, but AOW's are NOT subject to the handgun roster.

 

[sleepingdino]

What does Engage do to make it an Any Other Weapon?

 

[SevernBob]

Get it sent to Engage and have them AOW it, then you can have it, but you'll have to pay the ATF their $5 tax stamp.

You can't get an AK pistol, but AOW's are NOT subject to the handgun roster.

Ah. Thanks Mark. I'll give Engage a call.

 

[armed ferret]

What does Engage do to make it an Any Other Weapon?

presumably a vertical foregrip?

 

[Luigi]

presumably a vertical foregrip?

The dong.

 

[sleepingdino]

According to the MSP assault weapons list, AKs in all forms are considered Assault Weapons and fall into that category as opposed to the handgun category.

http://www.mdsp.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=835OWi-sH2U=&tabid=429&mid=1074

If so, then guns like the SAM7K should be treated like other guns on the list, e.g. AR-15 and Bushmaster semi-auto rifle.

 

[armed ferret]

however, the sa-m7k has no stock nor a provision to be fired from the shoulder...thus it's *NOT* a rifle per federal definition. it's a handgun...and since it's not on the approved handgun roster, it has to be transferred via NFA.

 

[Markp]

I saw one here in Guam today, they wanted $1700 for it!!! WTF. Thanks, I will take the over priced Ruger tactical for nearly 1/2 the cost, yet still over priced. They wanted $2500 for an M1A!

 

[armed ferret]

in fairness, it *IS* guam. shipping ain't exactly free.

 

[sleepingdino]

The state has a banned weapons list. The state also has a list of firearms that are regulated. Regardless of whether a firearm is a handgun or a rifle, its presence on the list makes it regulated. The state does not regulate firearms that are illegal.

A gun on the regulated list will never make it onto the handgun roster. It will always be regulated unless changed by law.

Too many gun owners are paranoid and forfeiting their legal rights.

This discussion and the legal ramifications are better discussed in a thread on another website.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_29/2...lsandapos___andamp__Detachable_Magazines.html

 

[SevernBob]

Yup. Mark was right. Engage is willing to do it. As mentioned, it involves installing a vertical foregrip. The part that turned me off was the 7-month wait after submitting fingerprints, passport, other paperwork and $5. It doesn't seem worth it to me. If anything, I'll look for a folder. Most likely will just get a fixed stock.

I didn't catch the guy's name at Engage. He was very helpful, but talked very fast. I felt like I was wasting his time every time I said huh, what? Especially after deciding I wasn't interested any longer.

If nothing else, I learned something new. Of course, that's not saying a lot for me in the guns and ammo world. I know very little.

Thanks you guys.

 

[sleepingdino]

You can get something that already has been modified from a Class 3 dealer such as Engage or others. It will be cheaper and less hassle in the long run.

When you (or I) move to a more gun-friendly state, then we can buy what we want.

 

[Okiegunner]

I've had mine for about a month now. Really loud and quite a bit of muzzle blast.

Fun to shoot though.

 

[armed ferret]

is that a gransfors?

 

[Okiegunner]

No its not

It is a hand made custom tomahawk. It is a Two Hawks Tomahawk "Warbeast" I posted some other photos of it under the "edged weapons" category.

Serial numbered 6150 Vanadium spring steel. Sharp on three sides.