PP: Wed. GUN BILL CALL!

[dist1646]

I believe you are referring to the Chairman's questions during SB737, about private sales? I do think that private sales should have a mechanism to allow the seller to get a background check. But, I see it as an option for the seller to request one. Otherwise, don't sell your firearms to someone you dont know.

I hope Sen.Ready reaches a higher office. He's strongly on our side.

Since Maryland is one of the states that does not fully supply NICS with the necessary information it needs, there is no single point for an effective background check within the state. NICS does not do background checks for private sales. The costs for the state, or the feds to implement such a system would be in the tens of millions.

In any event, a background check does not have the ability to see into anyone's future actions. There are plenty of cases where persons, including LEO, and even those with high level security clearances have committed acts of violence. Imagine the scenario of coming home after a hard day at work and catching your wife in bed with another man. Virtually any human being is capable of violence under the wrong circumstances. Unfortunately, the world we live in is not perfect.

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Virtually any human being is capable of violence under the wrong circumstances. Unfortunately, the world we live in is not perfect.

There needs to be more common sense laws to fix this. I mean, More Laws = Perfect World of Perfect law abiding citizens, no?

 

[Racer Doug14]

Since Maryland is one of the states that does not fully supply NICS with the necessary information it needs, there is no single point for an effective background check within the state. NICS does not do background checks for private sales. The costs for the state, or the feds to implement such a system would be in the tens of millions.

In any event, a background check does not have the ability to see into anyone's future actions. There are plenty of cases where persons, including LEO, and even those with high level security clearances have committed acts of violence. Imagine the scenario of coming home after a hard day at work and catching your wife in bed with another man. Virtually any human being is capable of violence under the wrong circumstances. Unfortunately, the world we live in is not perfect.

Great input and I agree with the future aspect. These are the parts of Federal gun laws that we and non gun people dont generally understand. The freedom to buy and sell private property. If a loophole was to be closed, this is one that the government could. Make it possible for a person to be able to. Not make them do.

 

[dist1646]

There needs to be more common sense laws to fix this. I mean, More Laws = Perfect World of Perfect law abiding citizens, no?

We have been infiltrated!!!

 

[Racer Doug14]

There needs to be more common sense laws to fix this. I mean, More Laws = Perfect World of Perfect law abiding citizens, no?

Most certainly. But, I would guess that if you could sell a firearm to someone you dont know, but at least have an idea that they are currently not prohibited, you would like to know? No more laws.

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

We have been infiltrated!!!

HAHA dist1646. HARDLY INFILTRATED. more like INFURIATED.



Our lawmakers are trying to make US who do OBEY the laws out to be criminals, yet Mrs Wolff and her loved ones and those of the other man killed have to endure this.

https://www.facebook.com/changeanna...and legislation killing babies&epa=SEARCH_BOX

 

[JoeRinMD]

In any event, a background check does not have the ability to see into anyone's future actions. There are plenty of cases where persons, including LEO, and even those with high level security clearances have committed acts of violence. Imagine the scenario of coming home after a hard day at work and catching your wife in bed with another man. Virtually any human being is capable of violence under the wrong circumstances. Unfortunately, the world we live in is not perfect.

This is a phenomenal quote to apply in discussions. It exposes the fallacy of "Universal Background Checks." AIUI, the Capital Gazette killer went through the background check process and still bought a shotgun, because the newspaper never pressed charges. He would likely have gotten a LQL if that was required at the time. He hadn't done anything insane yet.

Since Maryland is one of the states that does not fully supply NICS with the necessary information it needs, there is no single point for an effective background check within the state. NICS does not do background checks for private sales. The costs for the state, or the feds to implement such a system would be in the tens of millions.

Unfortunately, this is always met with the reductionist argument "if it just saves one life..." In the antis eyes, there is absolutely no room for accommodating our constitutional rights, or even a rudimentary cost/benefit analysis.

Joe

 

[Racer Doug14]

HAHA dist1646. HARDLY INFILTRATED. more like INFURIATED.



Our lawmakers are trying to make US who do OBEY the laws out to be criminals, yet Mrs Wolff and her loved ones and those of the other man killed have to endure this.

https://www.facebook.com/changeanna...and legislation killing babies&epa=SEARCH_BOX

That's a powerful story. And one I'd post against the Capital Gazette. Where is the outrage? F.ing Montgomery county!

 

[dist1646]

HAHA dist1646. HARDLY INFILTRATED. more like INFURIATED.



Our lawmakers are trying to make US who do OBEY the laws out to be criminals, yet Mrs Wolff and her loved ones and those of the other man killed have to endure this.

https://www.facebook.com/changeanna...and legislation killing babies&epa=SEARCH_BOX

That this illegal was let off so lightly is simply an atrocity!
It does fit the democrats policy of " If we get just one more vote"!

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

This is a phenomenal quote to apply in discussions. It exposes the fallacy of "Universal Background Checks." AIUI, the Capital Gazette killer went through the background check process and still bought a shotgun, because the newspaper never pressed charges. He would likely have gotten a LQL if that was required at the time. He hadn't done anything insane yet.



Unfortunately, this is always met with the reductionist argument "if it just saves one life..." In the antis eyes, there is absolutely no room for accommodating our constitutional rights, or even a rudimentary cost/benefit analysis.

Joe

Joe, I agree, it is a powerful statement and rings very true. Now like you mentioning how they would also argue if it saves one life...

These same anti's will argue this and gladly take their Bloomberg money to ban guns in the guise of saving life and yet in the same breath be perfectly fine with aborting unborn babies. Also if I read correctly, them and their liberal politicians are ok with voting against laws protecting the right to medical care for babies born of botched abortions.

 

[Rack&Roll]

A lot of other states don't worry about secondary sales of hand and long guns. Just not an issue. Maybe some one should ask the general assembly why they think that Maryland residents are mentally incompetent to buy, sell and carry without their guidance, the way most of the country does.

Projection, my man, projection!

Unhinged Leftists routinely project their out-of-control, feelings-based navigation of their lives onto EVERY OTHER PERSON.

They can't fathom that a huge segment of the population lives without the murderous impulses that poison Loony Leftist thinking 24/7....

 

[knovotny]

https://youtu.be/GDuCgwVJ8vA

Here's a longer clip of the unhinged red coat woman demanding to have a "safe space" and to be first in line, after she had elbowed her way through. Capital Police could clearly tell who the problem was.

 

[Crawls]

Since Maryland is one of the states that does not fully supply NICS with the necessary information it needs, there is no single point for an effective background check within the state..
[snip]

As a long time reader of this forum, I’ve read statements like this many times. I don’t doubt the accuracy of the statement. Where, though, can I find more information about what info MD does not share with NICS and the rational behind it? Many people non gun folks I talk to are unconvinced when I bring this up.

Thanks,

 

[swinokur]

Google state reporting mental health records to NICS.

MD does a lousy job

 

[swinokur]

https://youtu.be/GDuCgwVJ8vA

Here's a longer clip.

.

 

[Racer Doug14]

https://youtu.be/GDuCgwVJ8vA

I see a crazy person. She was unsure of how to act with officer ,when he started to not give what she wanted.

 

[dist1646]

As a long time reader of this forum, I’ve read statements like this many times. I don’t doubt the accuracy of the statement. Where, though, can I find more information about what info MD does not share with NICS and the rational behind it? Many people non gun folks I talk to are unconvinced when I bring this up.

Thanks,

I don't know the full details but, I'm pretty sure, atleast in part, it has to do with HIPPA. I am sure there will someone here who knows more.

 

[dist1646]

https://youtu.be/GDuCgwVJ8vA

Here's a longer clip.

Hope you got the rest of it! They came extremely close to removing her.

 

[Ammo Jon]

https://youtu.be/GDuCgwVJ8vA

Here's a longer clip.

I was in fear of her. She already assaulted one of us and I was afraid I would be next!

Luckily the LEO was there to protect me from her.

 

[Rack&Roll]

I was in fear of her. She already assaulted one of us and I was afraid I would be next!

Luckily the LEO was there to protect me from her.

We always have to keep our guard up because the Cat Ladies are always trying to fabricate victimhood.