Expect an interview in the next 20-40 days, and to be treated as a businessman.I submitted my renewal the day before the ruling came out. I listed as #1 personal protection and #2 as business owner for my reasons. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out? As of today it just says submitted.
Accepted merely means the basics were present. (Livescan, photo, fee, attachment for training.)So who has had their application go from submitted to accepted so far? I found someone on Twitter who has had his "accepted" using nothing but Bruen as his G&S (he confirmed with screenshots). We both submitted on Friday.
He did include a letter as an attachment for G&S which just further explained that G&S isn't required anymore due to Bruen. I didn't include any attachment at all for G&S justification (I submitted Friday before MSI came out with specific guidance). I suspect that was the deciding factor, perhaps an automated system involved giving a checkmark for whoever clicked accept.
Are they automatically accepted at that point or do they send a request for more info? Or just reject and force reapplication? No worries if you don't know the answer, but you seem knowledgeable on it, so figured I'd ask.Accepted merely means the basics were present. (Livescan, photo, fee, attachment for training.)
Applications that are missing any of the above are placed in shortage or “hold” category for 72 hrs.
Because you need the 16 hour training PLUS the qualification score.I don't see why an HQL wouldn't suffice. It is "Shall Issue," according to the majority opinion.
I’ve walked lots of people through the process since the portal opened. They only cancel (not reject) applications if one of the elements is missing {livescan receipt, photo, payment, scorecard (29-14) or other training documentation, naturalization papers, employment letter (SG/PD applicants)}Are they automatically accepted at that point or do they send a request for more info? Or just reject and force reapplication? No worries if you don't know the answer, but you seem knowledgeable on it, so figured I'd ask.
Ok, great, thanks. Yep, the only thing "missing" in my paperwork was the G&S supporting documentation, so I'll stop worrying until there's a flood of people saying they're on "accepted" while I'm still sitting at "submitted".I’ve walked lots of people through the process since the portal opened. They only cancel (not reject) applications if one of the elements is missing {livescan receipt, photo, payment, scorecard (29-14) or other training documentation, naturalization papers, employment letter (SG/PD applicants)}
The question on whether your “reason” is adequate is raised AFTER the initial background checks and not before. That discussion is explored during the interview with the assigned investigator.
That’s when MSP may ask for additional information, supporting documents, bank statements, police reports, restraining orders, etc., etc.
IMHO, it will be 20-45 days before one of the applications listing NYSRPA as the sole justification for the application is reviewed by an investigator.
I could do wrong- this is entirely new territory we’re entering.
Not really, training exempt need not have the 16 hours and qualifying score.Because you need the 16 hour training PLUS the qualification score.
Because the ruling explicitly allows other aspects shall-issue permitting schemes to stand (some may fall later, under separate litigation). So just that one feature of the current MD scheme is on the chopping block. That's it, for now. Presumably it takes a little time to re-plumb the process they use to collect the applications (that's being generous - NJ has already modified theirs, I believe - at least the public-facing part of it). In the meantime, as MSI has guided: every single thing about applying for a MD W&C stays the same (training, prints, all of it) other than what you say when they ask for your reason to carry (citing Bruen, and saying "self defense" is the guidance). Frosh will have to do something. But it will take longer to chase around the court to spank him over being slow than it will be to drum our fingers for a bit longer and wait it out. Or, just get your class, prints, and application done, and submit it per MSI's guidance, which will likely work just fine.I do not see why it is not Constitutional carry until Frosh wakes up and comes up with whatever scheme he wants...