Post 6/23/2022 MD Wear & Carry Permit Application

[Squaregrouper]

I wouldn't be surprised if MSP takes no action either way on post-ruling applications until MDAG has provided them complete guidance.

Some of MDS' attorneys can answer this better than I, but it is my understanding they have 90 days to approve or deny a permit. If they deny it based on no G&S, it would be a civil rights violation and they could personally be held liable.
I don't think they can legally put the 90 day law on hold until Frosh makes a determination. Tick tock, tick tock.

 

[eruby]

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Hannibal Lecter approves

I will personally donate $100 dollars to your filling fee/cause

 

[Allen65]

Some of MDS' attorneys can answer this better than I, but it is my understanding they have 90 days to approve or deny a permit. If they deny it based on no G&S, it would be a civil rights violation and they could personally be held liable.
I don't think they can legally put the 90 day law on hold until Frosh makes a determination. Tick tock, tick tock.

I think guidance will be forthcoming in a lot less than 90 days. But if not, what's the redress for someone whose permit process has gone beyond the time limit? IIRC there's no statutory penalties to be levied on the state or its employees; all that could be done is a file suit to require MSP to perform. And given how backed up the court system is, by the time that first hearing for that case came around, you'd probably have your license anyway. The 90 day limit is toothless.

 

[Bob A]

I'm looking forward to viewing the numbers regarding the sudden surge of CCW applications in MD.

It will handily give the lie to Frosh and the GA, who've insisted for years that MSP doen't deny most applications. Then there's the apoplexy on the part of the MD Progs as they realise that We Walk Among Them! - especially since they won't know who we are.

 

[John from MD]

I think guidance will be forthcoming in a lot less than 90 days. But if not, what's the redress for someone whose permit process has gone beyond the time limit? IIRC there's no statutory penalties to be levied on the state or its employees; all that could be done is a file suit to require MSP to perform. And given how backed up the court system is, by the time that first hearing for that case came around, you'd probably have your license anyway. The 90 day limit is toothless.

Start calling Clarence Thomas.

 

[6-Pack]

I think guidance will be forthcoming in a lot less than 90 days. But if not, what's the redress for someone whose permit process has gone beyond the time limit? IIRC there's no statutory penalties to be levied on the state or its employees; all that could be done is a file suit to require MSP to perform. And given how backed up the court system is, by the time that first hearing for that case came around, you'd probably have your license anyway. The 90 day limit is toothless.

Now? It’s a violation of your civil rights and it opens the door to personal liability for those involved.

I was just thinking: I can imagine the 2013 stuff going away because cops are exempt from everything - so they are providing rights unequally.

 

[Squaregrouper]

I think guidance will be forthcoming in a lot less than 90 days. But if not, what's the redress for someone whose permit process has gone beyond the time limit? IIRC there's no statutory penalties to be levied on the state or its employees; all that could be done is a file suit to require MSP to perform. And given how backed up the court system is, by the time that first hearing for that case came around, you'd probably have your license anyway. The 90 day limit is toothless.

I'm assuming you're familiar with a "Brady Release" for delayed applications that aren't actually denied. We might need to implement the "Frosh Release" when W&C permits extend beyond 90 days without approval.
"Yes officer, I qualified for a Frosh Release on my W&C permit."

 

[shootin the breeze]

I'm assuming you're familiar with a "Brady Release" for delayed applications that aren't actually denied. We might need to implement the "Frosh Release" when W&C permits extend beyond 90 days without approval.
"Yes officer, I qualified for a Frosh Release on my W&C permit."

I implement the frosh release daily…

 

[teratos]

I implement the frosh release daily…

Would you recommend 2-3 times a day, for colon health?

 

[shootin the breeze]

Would you recommend 2-3 times a day, for colon health?

Sure would! Rid your colon of frosh! You will feel better and live longer, lol

 

[teratos]

Sure would! Rid your colon of frosh! You will feel better and live longer, lol

I’m going to take a Frosh as often as possible.

Frosh is hopefully froshing in his pants in a fetal position trying to explain himself to an apparition of Clarence Thomas.

 

[6-Pack]

I’m going to take a Frosh as often as possible.

Frosh is hopefully froshing in his pants in a fetal position trying to explain himself to an apparition of Clarence Thomas.

Gave me an idea. Maybe I’ll send Frosh a thank you card, because if it wasn’t because of his constant denial of our rights, we wouldn’t be where we are today. Bonus points for tossing in a Roe v. Wade reference.

 

[slsc98]

1- Start out by logging in here... https://licensingportal.mdsp.maryland.gov/MSPBridgeClient/#/home
2- Click on " Start HGP"
3- Fill out the application noting the following before submitting is possible:
..A- You need to have Livescan fingerprints done to add the Livescan PCN # and upload receipt.
..B- You have to take the 16hr Wear & Carry class and upload the documents, or be training exempt (DD214, et al)
..C- You need passport photos (can be done at home)
4- Under "Handgun Permit Category", choose "Personal Protection, Category Not Listed Above".
5- When questioned about reason, add self-defense based upon The SCOTUS ruling on 6/23/2022
6- Under Upload Documents for Personal Protection, upload a copy of this-- https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
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Everything else is a matter of attention to details.
New Jersey officially went Shall Issue the day after the SCOTUS ruling and it is just a matter of time before Maryland is forced to comply as well.

ETA- California also went shall issue the day after the SCOTUS ruling. Maryland can't hold off for long.

Watch. Violent Crime Rates. Drop. In NJ …

 

[Sealion]

Thanks for the update SG. Does anyone know of a place near ANP who does finger prints and photos for reasonable prices? I have used a google search and didn't come up with much.

You can use an app to take your photos. Everything is done online now. It's been a while, but I think I used Passport Photo. If you are not exempt from training, many classes provide fingerprint services. I did my class at Guntry. Not the cheapest, but most convienent for me.

As a business owner, I got the golden ticket (somehow I was a better class of citizen in MD). I had to submit bank statements and deposit receipts. I'm glad to see (fingers crosssed) that folks no longer have to do that.

 

[Sealion]

Thanks for the update SG. Does anyone know of a place near ANP who does finger prints and photos for reasonable prices? I have used a google search and didn't come up with much.

dupe

 

[slsc98]

Congratulations to all of you in MD (and elsewhere the DemonRats are in control)!!!!

If this plays out the way it has everywhere else law-abiding citizens can CC without fear of retribution from Leftist thugs (all of whose security details have the blackest, scariest and “assaultiest” of everything!) then standby for crime rates to fvcking PLUMMET!

My family watched this play out for the first time in FL and all of a sudden the punk thugs praying upon the elderly, coeds and assumed tourists had to check themselves cuz, just like a snap of a justice’s fingers, it wasn’t only cops and the criminals packing … why, it could be that woman right over there, waking through the poorly lit parking lot, all by herself!

 

[Squaregrouper]

Congratulations to all of you in MD (and elsewhere the DemonRats are in control)!!!!

If this plays out the way it has everywhere else law-abiding citizens can CC without fear of retribution from Leftist thugs (all of whose security details have the blackest, scariest and “assaultiest” of everything!) then standby for crime rates to fvcking PLUMMET!

My family watched this play out for the first time in FL and all of a sudden the punk thugs praying upon the elderly, coeds and assumed tourists had to check themselves cuz, just like a snap of a justice’s fingers, it wasn’t only cops and the criminals packing … why, it could be that woman right over there, waking through the poorly lit parking lot, all by herself!

Being a PA native and former FL resident, this is really hard to explain to non pro 2A people in Marylandistan. They can't grasp the concept that criminals in Baltimore/MD simply assume their victims are unarmed because (virtually) nobody can legally carry a self defense firearm.

 

[Straightshooter]

I'm looking forward to viewing the numbers regarding the sudden surge of CCW applications in MD.

It will handily give the lie to Frosh and the GA, who've insisted for years that MSP doen't deny most applications. Then there's the apoplexy on the part of the MD Progs as they realise that We Walk Among Them! - especially since they won't know who we are.

Just as I did during 2013 pre-Woollard stay, I encourage all veterans to jump on the wagon to get the flood of applications started. You don't need to spend the dollars for classes, so you only need to put up the cost of prints and the filing fee.

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[AKbythebay]

I used the one on Riva. Quick and painless, well $63.00 of pain.

Can you post contact info for this site? I'm looking for a place to get these done. In on the mid-shore.

I was going to call MVA Salisbury. Anyone know how much they charge?

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[Fox123]

Just as I did during 2013 pre-Woollard stay, I encourage all veterans to jump on the wagon to get the flood of applications started. You don't need to spend the dollars for classes, so you only need to put up the cost of prints and the filing fee.

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This 100%

I submitted application on Friday.