Police: Man Carjacked, Kidnapped and Robbed on Broken Land Parkway

[danbdan]

I cross through this intersection in Columbia every night on my way home from my business, and frequently around midnight or 1am. This could have been me... and as a law-abiding citizen, I remain unarmed in these situations.

Would a pile of reports like this ever convince the MSP as a "good and substantial reason" to issue a CCW permit???

http://columbia.patch.com/articles/police-man-carjacked-kidnapped-and-robbed-on-broken-land-parkway

http://columbia.patch.com/articles/home-invaders-steal-safe-in-columbia-howard-county-crime-reports

 

[zoostation]

Is it a good and substantial reason to carry? Hell yes!

Will the state say it is? No way. Unless you were the actual victim and can show that the perpetrator might come back after you again, they're not going to do it.

 

[Rack&Roll]

If this is happening on beauty-ful Brokenland Pkwy then all hope is lost

 

[Waitwhat]

That's down the street from where I live. I fill up at the Steven's Forest Exxon late at night all the time, but now I guess I should probably stop doing that.

 

[Dal1as]

Why in the hell did he unlock his door? Also, whatever happened to situational awareness?

 

[Hi-Torque]

Nope. They generally want 3-4 police reports where you were the victim or involved before they'll consider you for a carry permit. Being near crime doesn't count, even in a violent area, it doesn't matter to them.

So rest easy, without police reports with your name as the victim, the state says you aren't in danger!

It's only the Free State if you're a criminal.

 

[Makarov Kid]

Carry a knife or pepper spray or a taser or use a combination of them. In Maryland they want you to be defenseless, but you must be vigilant even without a CCW and a gun. I wonder why the man even unlocked the door in the first place and didn't drive off when the gun was displayed. I feel bad for the guy, but we all know natural selection is at play here.

 

[Waitwhat]

Why in the hell did he unlock his door? Also, whatever happened to situational awareness?

Agreed, but the reality is that when it's late at night and you've had a long day even the best of us can slip up every now and then.

EDIT: Never mind, just read the whole article and saw that the guy opened his door and practically invited the guys in.

What really scares me about this is that my younger sister drives through that intersection all the time. If it had been her coming back from a late night study party (she's a huge nerd), she probably would have gotten raped as well as robbed. I just gave her my better-paranoid-than-dead spiel, hopefully it stuck.

On a slightly lighter note, I wonder what would happen if someone tried to carjack me? I drive a manual, so I have a built in anti-theft system since most Americans look at my clutch pedal in confusion and disbelief.

 

[ColonelHurtz]

If you haven't noticed, Stevens Forest is no longer in America.

 

[Dal1as]

Agreed, but the reality is that when it's late at night and you've had a long day even the best of us can slip up every now and then.

EDIT: Never mind, just read the whole article and saw that the guy opened his door and practically invited the guys in.

What really scares me about this is that my younger sister drives through that intersection all the time. If it had been her coming back from a late night study party (she's a huge nerd), she probably would have gotten raped as well as robbed. I just gave her my better-paranoid-than-dead spiel, hopefully it stuck.

On a slightly lighter note, I wonder what would happen if someone tried to carjack me? I drive a manual, so I have a built in anti-theft system since most Americans look at my clutch pedal in confusion and disbelief.

There was recently a story about a guy with a manual getting jacked I believe in Florida and they couldn't drive it.

 

[pbharvey]

I stopped by Pendergrass's office a few hours ago and talked to her aid. Mentioned that we need to address the real threats we face from gun violence like what happened with those 4 kids carjacking and robbing that cab driver in Oakland Mills. I mentioned that none of the new gun laws would help that and similar situations that are becoming more and more frequent. Then I said, "you know about what happened in Oakland Mills right?" Crickets...oh we've been too busy down here to know what's going on.

So in bucolic Ho Co, some teen thugs - high school students - do an armed stick up on a cabbie and the Delegate isn't aware of it. Meanwhile she's hard at work trying to make us safer from the imaginary threats of AR 15's and 17 round Glock magazines.

 

[randyho]

Why are the youth not choosing civility?!

 

[pbharvey]

Why are the youth not choosing civility?!

Because carjacking pays better

 

[bjmsam]

Columbia should obviously be declared a gun free zone.

 

[adit]

Why are the youth not choosing civility?!

Probably to spite those stupid green stickers on the back of cars in HoCo.

 

[Indiana Jones]

Nope. They generally want 3-4 police reports where you were the victim or involved before they'll consider you for a carry permit. Being near crime doesn't count, even in a violent area, it doesn't matter to them.

So rest easy, without police reports with your name as the victim, the state says you aren't in danger!

It's only the Free State if you're a criminal.

Yep. You basically have to be a proven magnet for criminal activity. Sad shit

 

[marte616]

This gas station is 2 miles from my house and I drive by it every night after work. Choose civility? My ass? Walmart in Dobbin Rd. and the Columbia Mall are hosts to more assaults and robberies you can think of. Lots of these crime o not get reported by HOCO PD...it looks bad. Also, look at the description of the Perps...what a surprise.

I was told by HOCO PD 6 yrs ago that the area between the mall, Wilde Lake, Tamar, Steven Forest, etc are nothing but Section 8, low income housing full of Baltimorians displaced due to lead paint in their homes....also that Ellicott City was under siege from Baltimore punks driving down the county line and committing grand theft, assault, etc and being able to drive north or east quickly on the MD40 corridor....

I avoid the mall, and if I go I carry.

 

[BDWMS]

I live close to that station as well. My wife goes there frequently. She won't any more.

A month ago some kids starting firing bullets from a pistol at the McDonald's on Cradlerock while my pregnant wife and I were there. I got outta there fast and called the cops. It never showed up on daily crime bulletin. We moved here because HoCo was supposed to be safe...

 

[Aldwyn]

Another Stevens Forest resident.

Sure we can flee the area... and go where? Seems like no place in Maryland is really completely safe any more.

Florida is looking better and better.

 

[Waitwhat]

On the bright side, me posting the article on facebook led to a good conversation with one of my formerly anti-gun friends and he's now convinced that everyone who can pass a background check should be allowed to carry. A small victory, but it made feel good.