nysrpa v. Bruen NY released.

[teratos]

Maybe I'll get started and get a head of the curve as well. I didn't think you could appeal anymore, I thought that board got disbanded.

The board got disbanded. If you are denied, there is no need to appeal. File suit. They cannot deny your permit unless you are a felon or mentally defective.

The playing field is fundamentally changed going forward.

 

[Stoveman]

Maybe I'll get started and get a head of the curve as well. I didn't think you could appeal anymore, I thought that board got disbanded.

The HPRB was disbanded, you can still appeal to the OAH.

 

[RoadDawg]

Safe to assume this will have NO effect on MD?

How can Maryland continue to require a HQL to purchase an item, which the SCOTUS has ruled is a COTUS right to carry?

Bye bye 3013 and the HQL.

 

[BUffaloSocks]

Following this... Coming from Oregon and being a previous CCW holder there, and a current Utah CCW holder, I do miss being able to here in MD. I will say I am surprised of the ruling.

 

[scottyfz6]

How can Maryland continue to require a HQL to purchase an item, which the SCOTUS has ruled is a COTUS right to carry?

Bye bye 3013 and the HQL.

They stated in the case it does not apply to existing regulations for purchase requirements. But it does open the door to go after them.

 

[shershot99]

Perhaps this isnt the correct thread, but I have a few questions:
1. I assume I should do the 16 hours of training BEFORE I submit the application and BEFORE I do the finger printing?
2. Does any of the training locations do the finger printing on site to streamline the process?
3. I know I need the passport photos before the app.
4. Does HQL alleviate any of the requirement for Wear and Carry? Meaning, do I need new prints, etc.

 

[jpprock]

I am thinking about applying just not sure which box to check for my reason. None of them really apply

 

[Knuckle66]

I think we are going to need an updated process on what is needed to apply. MSI's website is obviously out of date, and our sticky thread is even worse since some of the links in it are dead.

 

[jpprock]

Perhaps I should wait for some of these to be answered before I jump right in

Perhaps this isnt the correct thread, but I have a few questions:
1. I assume I should do the 16 hours of training BEFORE I submit the application and BEFORE I do the finger printing?
2. Does any of the training locations do the finger printing on site to streamline the process?
3. I know I need the passport photos before the app.
4. Does HQL alleviate any of the requirement for Wear and Carry? Meaning, do I need new prints, etc.

 

[RoadDawg]

They stated in the case it does not apply to existing regulations for purchase requirements. But it does open the door to go after them.

Accepted and established procedure in Maryland…
Anyone who was granted a CCW permit, was also given the HQL upon request. No further requirements.

“Shall Issue” will now be the required practice. Therefore, there is no need for the HQL. And continuing to require it, will be easily challenged as an infringement which is contrary to the SCOTUS ruling on the matter today.

 

[Bullfrog]

The board got disbanded. If you are denied, there is no need to appeal. File suit. They cannot deny your permit unless you are a felon or mentally defective.

The playing field is fundamentally changed going forward.

If you are so paranoid you feel the need to carry a firearm with you, you must be mentally defective, therefore you will be denied a permit. You may only obtain a permit if you do not want one and refuse to carry a firearm, which indicates that you are of sound mind.

Joseph Heller smiles knowingly.

Dick Heller frowns in disapproval.

 

[teratos]

Perhaps this isnt the correct thread, but I have a few questions:
1. I assume I should do the 16 hours of training BEFORE I submit the application and BEFORE I do the finger printing?
2. Does any of the training locations do the finger printing on site to streamline the process?
3. I know I need the passport photos before the app.
4. Does HQL alleviate any of the requirement for Wear and Carry? Meaning, do I nee

Perhaps I should wait for some of these to be answered before I jump right in

You are going to apply exactly as before, if you are applying now. No difference.

 

[WARPIG [USMC]]

Im wondering if it would be worth requesting an "Informal Review" on my pending W&C permit to see if I can get my restriction lifted, after hearing about this...

 

[Knuckle66]

You are going to apply exactly as before, if you are applying now. No difference.

What do we use for G&S now? Since something has to be filled in.

 

[teratos]

What do we use for G&S now? Since something has to be filled in.

Personal protection, self defense, protect deez nutz, all should do.

 

[lx1x]

Personal protection, self defense, protect deez nutz, all should do.

 

[Knuckle66]

LOL I'm wondering if it's worth going to Hafers and doing the program. It's 300 dollars but they help get everything done.

 

[scottyfz6]

Perhaps this isnt the correct thread, but I have a few questions:
1. I assume I should do the 16 hours of training BEFORE I submit the application and BEFORE I do the finger printing?
2. Does any of the training locations do the finger printing on site to streamline the process?
3. I know I need the passport photos before the app.
4. Does HQL alleviate any of the requirement for Wear and Carry? Meaning, do I need new prints, etc.

yes you do the training before you apply, yes there are some trainings that do the prints, no the hql does nothing in this case.

 

[Mike OTDP]

The amusing part is that I’ve got a renewal application in the pipeline now.

 

[scottyfz6]

What do we use for G&S now? Since something has to be filled in.

Self defense. And if you want to be snarky, which might actually help. "Self defense as afforded via via the Scotus case NYSRPA v. NY."