Bertfish
Throw bread on me
I haven't gone to any kind of shooting class in a long time. I'm very excited for this
No but it gives you the ability to apply to MSP for that statusI've read through this thread and looked at the registration links but still have so many questions.
Does completing the instructor class give me QHIC status?
Is there periodic refresher training required to maintain that status?
see aboveIf so, what are the training intervals and time requirements?
unsure besides the classesAre there one-time or periodic fees payable to NRA for maintenance of the credentials?
If you get the QHIC then yesWill I be eligible to provide training for Maryland HQL or CCW classes?
Don't know feesIf so, will I be required to be licensed or credentialed by Maryland and what fees would be associated that?
If you get the QHIC yesWill this exempt me from Maryland Wear & Carry renewal training?
Every 4 years you have to reapply to MSP with current NRA credentialsIf so, is this permanent or will I still need to have periodic instructor refresher training?
And same questions for DC.
I'll answer what I knew aboveI'm interested. I just want to know what I am getting for all of this.
I believe what the man is saying here is the NRA curriculum is not the same as the MSP curriculum for the carry permit training so you need to teach to the MSP requirements?Successful applicants/students will have an NRA Basic Pistol instructor certification to teach the NRA Basic Pistol Course. At this current point in time, MDSP does accept this for QHIC. You would need to teach more than the NRA course to comply with MD law but the QHIC allows you to do it. NRA instructor renewals are every two years.
The MDSP info is here:
Yes, NRA Basic Pistol doesn't teach MD law.I believe what the man is saying here is the NRA curriculum is not the same as the MSP curriculum for the carry permit training so you need to teach to the MSP requirements?
You also need the MD shooting qual which requires different distances than NRA BPThe NRA curriculum by itself doesn't include everything required for Maryland. You would need to present that also .
Hypothetically you could offer a 16hr Class that taught an orthodox NRA Basic Pistol for 8hrs worth ; and use the remainder of the 16hrs for the Maryland stuff .
This^^The NRA curriculum by itself doesn't include everything required for Maryland. You would need to present that also .
Hypothetically you could offer a 16hr Class that taught an orthodox NRA Basic Pistol for 8hrs worth ; and use the remainder of the 16hrs for the Maryland stuff .
The MD W&C basic curriculum should closely follow NRA Personal Protection Outside the Home or the full NRA CCW class with ALL modules. These 2 are basically the same class. I cannot recommend any instructor for MD W&C not familiar with these classes.I've got ideas in my head for writing a curriculum that I've gleaned from reading here and other sources
I'll look in to those as wellThe MD W&C basic curriculum should closely follow NRA Personal Protection Outside the Home or the full NRA CCW class with ALL modules. These 2 are basically the same class. I cannot recommend any instructor for MD W&C not familiar with these classes.
But we know that many or possibly MOST MD QHIC instructors only know Basic Pistol and little if anything else.
The ccw instructor shooting test is harder than the BOPS test. And the course material is more involved/modular. It's not a bad class but some of the material is dated. It's definitely geared towards the new ccw applicant and it covers the basics pretty well (BOPS definitely doesn't cover carry). I may disagree personally with some of the finer points of the curriculum of CCW but it's not "bad". If I were to teach it, I'd definitely recommend that people take a "2.0" version where the NRA mandated stuff could be dispensed with.I'll look in to those as well
Many of us will never agree whether this should be treated as a check box only or made something more useful.
Reserving for discussionI have hesitated to comment on this post..........
I have been teaching/instructing various things for a while and have realized some things. There are people who can teach and people who think teaching is easy. The recent demand for Md courses has caused a flood of instructors, of which some are good and some are bad. Getting an nra instructor certification does not make you a good competent instructor, it takes more than that.
Back in 2013 when this all started i seem to remember instructors had to have 1 year of experience before the MSP would certify them to teach the permit and hql course, I think that requirement is gone now. The MSP gives very little guidance to instructors, which means they can do the bare minimum and even been wrong on things until they are finally corrected, if ever corrected. It is to easy to become an instructor, you can disagree if you like but when dealing with something as serious as the responsibility of carrying a firearm the instructor should be vetted and held to a high standard.
If you are doing this to be certified to teach others I would advise you to partner up with an experienced instructor to get some experience teaching. Don't become one of the bad ones, even if it's an accident. If you are doing it to get out of the training and to become exempt for the permit or HQL we'll that's another thing entirely.
Some will be unhappy with this post, that's ok. I have also learned in my past few decades of teaching there are some who already know everything. Best of luck to you.
I do applaud the instructors offering this opportunity, they are doing a financial favor to everyone who participates.
I would advise anyone with questions about the nra certification or the MSP QHIC or QHIL to contact the sources.
TD
It depends on the student. I trained a 13 year old apprentice instructor last year.@euler357 Is there a minimum age for students to take the Basics of Pistol Shooting student course?
Email or call Dwight about availability on the current classesI took too long to arrange my schedule, it appears as if The classes are full. Please update new dates when available.