NJ Blinks, When Will MD?

[DaveP]

NJ ATTORNEY GENERAL
ISSUES DIRECTIVE REQUIRING
CARRY PERMIT APPLICATIONS
TO BE PROCESSED WITHOUT
"JUSTIFIABLE NEED"
June 24, 2022. At the close of business today, and in light of the Bruen decision, the New Jersey Attorney General issued a directive to law enforcement agencies and prosecutors mandating that NJ carry permit applications now be processed WITHOUT an applicant having to prove "justifiable need."

 

[press1280]

And so did CA...https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1540501223543021576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1540501223543021576%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

I'm wondering though since the MSP issues the permits (and they would be the ones sued) that they may unilaterally decide to drop good cause and not wait on Frosh and MGA to tell them to?

 

[w2kbr]

IMHO: Maryland will never "blink" or "fold". They will continue to fight until forced
to concede the issue. Think FROSH!!!

 

[Worsley]

If you Riot, burn down police precincts and businesses until you get your way works and as an added bonus you’ll never be prosecuted.

 

[Allen65]

And so did CA...https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1540501223543021576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1540501223543021576%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

I'm wondering though since the MSP issues the permits (and they would be the ones sued) that they may unilaterally decide to drop good cause and not wait on Frosh and MGA to tell them to?

MSP acts based on MDAG's legal advice. I doubt they'd get ahead of the AG's Office on a matter of legal compliance.

 

[welder516]

So what is needed for NJ training and money ?

 

[6-Pack]

So what is needed for NJ training and money ?

This. I’d like to get NY and NJ out of principle as an F-you to the libs

 

[welder516]

I actually like going to Cape May on the Ferry but I imagine the ferry is off limits.

 

[outrider58]

IMHO: Maryland will never "blink" or "fold". They will continue to fight until forced
to concede the issue. Think FK FROSH!!!

FIFY

 

[pcfixer]

G&S is gone-can't be used.
How about 16 hours of "Training" by MSP qualified instructor?

 

[Inigoes]

IMHO: Maryland will never "blink" or "fold". They will continue to fight until forced
to concede the issue. Think FROSH!!!

Hopefully, Frosh will be forced to write that letter, after making a career of being anti-2A.

Sweet justice!

 

[scottyfz6]

MSP acts based on MDAG's legal advice. I doubt they'd get ahead of the AG's Office on a matter of legal compliance.

I have spoken to Mark Bowen a few times, he is the ag assigned at the lic div. He is a nice guy and very reasonable. I have thought about contacting him, but I am sure he is way over his head in work right now.

So it is not like there is some huge disconnect from the ag office to the state police.

 

[whistlersmother]

If you Riot, burn down police precincts and businesses until you get your way works and as an added bonus you’ll never be prosecuted.

But only rioting for liberal causes.

Try all that for gun rights and find out how quickly you're face down, cuffed, with guns pointed at your head.

 

[Worsley]

But only rioting for liberal causes.

Try all that for gun rights and find out how quickly you're face down, cuffed, with guns pointed at your head.

Become a DINO

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Supreme Court allows the carrying of firearms in public in major victory for gun rights groups

The ruling expands upon a 2008 decision that said the Second Amendment safeguards a person’s right to possess firearms at home for self-protection.

www.nbcnews.com

The law at issue said, however, that permits could be granted only to applicants who demonstrated some special need — a requirement that went beyond a general desire for self-protection.

Gun owners in the state sued, contending that the requirement made it virtually impossible for ordinary citizens to get the necessary license. They argued that the law turned the Second Amendment into a limited privilege, not a constitutional right.

The court agreed with the challengers and struck down the heightened requirement, but it left the door open to allowing states to impose limits on the carrying of guns.

"The constitutional right to bear arms in public for self-defense is not 'a second-class right, subject to an entirely different body of rules than the other Bill of Rights guarantees,'” Justice Clarence Thomas wrote in the majority opinion. "We know of no other constitutional right that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need."

In the ruling’s most far-reaching language, Thomas said concern for public safety isn’t enough to justify new gun controls.

“The government must affirmatively prove that its firearm regulation is part of the historical tradition that delimits the outer bounds of the right to keep and bear arms,” he wrote.
New York's law was "problematic because it grants open-ended discretion to licensing officials and authorizes licenses only for those applicants who can show some special need apart from self-defense" — in effect, denying citizens the right to carry a gun to protect themselves, he wrote.

In a dissent joined by liberal Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, Justice Stephen Breyer mentioned recent mass shootings in Uvalde, Texas, Buffalo, New York, and elsewhere, saying it is "often necessary" for the court to consider gun violence in deciding Second Amendment issues.

 

[Phil I Am]

IMHO: Maryland will never "blink" or "fold". They will continue to fight until forced
to concede the issue. Think FROSH!!!

Frosh is a prick. No doubt

 

[Fox123]

So when can 1983 damages be asked for?

 

[Phil I Am]

This. I’d like to get NY and NJ out of principle as an F-you to the libs

A state doesn’t have to offer a non-resident carry permit.

 

[Inigoes]

A state doesn’t have to offer a non-resident carry permit.

They will need to either offer constitutional carry, or a permit of some form.

 

[beavisman1]

A state doesn’t have to offer a non-resident carry permit.

Until now. Your Constitutional rights don't stop when you enter a state where you are a non-resident. That will not pass the text, history, tradition test defined in NYSRPA.