night vision vs thermal

[rob b]

looking to outfit a varmit rig
was thinking night vision scope on gun with agm thermal monocular to look around/search
maybe thermal on both
not looking to break the bank either

thoughts ?

 

[Privateer]

Thermal to spot IR to shoot. ATN Thor and a 4K scope are what I run.

 

[teratos]

I think thermal is superior to conventional IR NV for spotting living targets.

IR NV is superior for navigating terrain/wood in the dark.


I’d consider a clip on thermal. One that can do double duty as spotting scope/weapon scope, and get a decent IR monocular, Gen 2 at least…for getting around.

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[Brickman301]

Like the others have said, thermal scanner, and NV scope. Thermal can pick up animals so much faster. NV is clearer and you can confirm what your target is.

 

[44man]

Like the others have said, thermal scanner, and NV scope. Thermal can pick up animals so much faster. NV is clearer and you can confirm what your target is.

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[E.Shell]

I think thermal is superior to conventional IR NV for spotting living targets.

I’d consider a clip on thermal. One that can do double duty as spotting scope/weapon scope, and get a decent IR monocular, Gen 2 at least…for getting around.

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@teratos : Do you have the one you link?

Does this install on a rail behind regular optics?
TIA!

 

[RRomig]

How far can NV make a positive ID. I have a ATN and even with an upgraded infrared it seems passed a 100 to 150 it’s not that great. My thermal is very good at IDing but it was pricey.
After trying a couple different night setups I’ve settled on thermal scope and a thermal scanning monocular.

 

[teratos]

@teratos : Do you have the one you link?

Does this install on a rail behind regular optics?
TIA!

Here’s another link from their site. It shows it mounting in front of your scope. I don’t have one. I just got a Pulsar Monocular, my thermal sight is a Super Hogster R. It’s on my .300 BLK. I gotta dial it in with supers and subs.

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How far can NV make a positive ID. I have a ATN and even with an upgraded infrared it seems passed a 100 to 150 it’s not that great. My thermal is very good at IDing but it was pricey.
After trying a couple different night setups I’ve settled on thermal scope and a thermal scanning monocular.

I’d definitely stick with thermal for scanning for warm-blooded targets. I have a big IR flashlight. 200-250 yards with good IR. I have a good Gen 3 WP tube in a PVS-14. There is no shame in wearing a bump helmet if you are using it to mount your NV. IR lasers are pretty neat, too.

 

[E.Shell]

Thank you kind sir!

 

[rob b]

guys thanks for the help will save the money and go with thermal both ways
awesome rig above I like it

 

[teratos]

Thank you kind sir!

I will also add that instead of the handheld thermal monocular I got, I should have gotten a clip on thermal.

 

[RRomig]

I will also add that instead of the handheld thermal monocular I got, I should have gotten a clip on thermal.

Curious why you’d rather have a clip on. I would think that would add up to more weight that just a thermal scope.

 

[teratos]

Curious why you’d rather have a clip on. I would think that would add up to more weight that just a thermal scope.

You can use it for scanning and switch among rifles.

I do like my Pulsar XQ35 PRO. It’s a good monocular and fun to play with. It can’t be mounted on a firearm.

 

[RRomig]

You can use it for scanning and switch among rifles.

I do like my Pulsar XQ35 PRO. It’s a good monocular and fun to play with. It can’t be mounted on a firearm.

Does your monocular have a range finder?

 

[steves1911]

Thermals are getting better and better at ID at longer ranges. I was blown away at the difference between my old pulsar with its 256 sensor and my agm with its 384. I've had the chance to look through a pulsar with 640 and it's pretty crazy the detail and clarity it gets. 1280 is out now I can't imagine what that must be like. The higher end sensors are $$$$ but as tech improves prices come down.

 

[Slowhand]

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[teratos]

Does your monocular have a range finder?

Yes. I got the one with the range finder.

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[Alea Jacta Est]

Yes. I got the one with the range finder.

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It’s good to have a sugar momma!!

Nice kit.

 

[teratos]

It’s good to have a sugar momma!!

Nice kit.

I love her……

 

[RRomig]

Yes. I got the one with the range finder.

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Nice!
When I got my monocular I don’t think it had that option but my thermal scopes have always have RF. It never ceases to amaze me how bad my range guesstimates are at night.