MSP wait times for handgun approval

[seawolf823]

Day 41 and counting

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[goofy810]

43 days and counting grrrr

 

[40watt]

Call MSP licensing division! Give them your social # and they will look it up and tell you were it stands. It took 10 minutes to get what I needed. The lady told me that somebody processed it and it was "not-disapproved" but somebody forgot a whole batch of paperwork and it never got mailed or faxed. She said that since I took the intiative to follow up on it she would personally take the forms and mail them out herself on here way home, and all the others will just have to wait since they obviously dont care enough top take a few minutes out of their day to make the call.

 

[04RWon]

Call MSP licensing division! Give them your social # and they will look it up and tell you were it stands. It took 10 minutes to get what I needed. The lady told me that somebody processed it and it was "not-disapproved" but somebody forgot a whole batch of paperwork and it never got mailed or faxed. She said that since I took the intiative to follow up on it she would personally take the forms and mail them out herself on here way home, and all the others will just have to wait since they obviously dont care enough top take a few minutes out of their day to make the call.

Cool that she did that. However MSP are expected to be "Marylands Finest". If you want that title, perfection should be expected. Civillian or not, you are with MSP.

 

[40watt]

I agree. However, As demonstrated time and time again the system fails. And unfortunely the caring and courteous ones are few and far between. Most don't want to do anything more than necessary. If you just "hope" that MSP is doing there job properly, then you might as well "hope" that Obama is doing his job and doing us right as well. I commend the lady on her actions to help me. Yet unfortunely others will suffer be cause they can't (and I quote),"give up a few minutes to call."

Checks and Balances my friend.

"We are watching."

 

[HumbleEinstein]

These recent posts seem like they're from a parallel universe. I'll leave it at that.

 

[sgtjunk]

I have the same thing going for me but the government wants the most up to date information on you.

True they do but the simple fact is that the requirements for keeping your clearance are much more strict than passing the gun BG check. Ergo if you still have your clearance you would be g2g. So there must be an alternative motive or they're short-sighted enough to believe the group of those who both hold a clearance and are purchasing firearms is too small of a group to consider.

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[SpecialJ79]

True they do but the simple fact is that the requirements for keeping your clearance are much more strict than passing the gun BG check. Ergo if you still have your clearance you would be g2g. So there must be an alternative motive or they're short-sighted enough to believe the group of those who both hold a clearance and are purchasing firearms is too small of a group to consider.

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Only problem here is how do I prove my clearance to the FFL or MSP. Trust me I've got a clearance that ain't easy to get. Less than 30 people in my entire career field have it. But yet I've got to deal with these retarded waits as well.

 

[JustCuz]

I agree. However, As demonstrated time and time again the system fails. And unfortunely [sic] the caring and courteous ones are few and far between. Most don't want to do anything more than necessary.

I wish the MSP had nothing whatsoever to do with firearm transactions, and I agree that government agencies make inefficient administrators, and that those systems are likely to fail. That said, I've contacted several people in the Licensing Division regarding various issues, including unusual transfers, handgun permits, collector's status, fingerprinting and private CJIS inquries, handgun roster petitions, regulation inquiries, and this current unacceptable delay in processing paperwork. I've dealt with 12-15 troopers and civilian agents at MSP on these issues, and ONE of them had a bad attitude, but even she was helpful. I'm not convinced that the state is doing everything they can to put an end to this delay, and I have problems with the system itself, but the individual troopers are not the problem.

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

Only problem here is how do I prove my clearance to the FFL or MSP. Trust me I've got a clearance that ain't easy to get. Less than 30 people in my entire career field have it. But yet I've got to deal with these retarded waits as well.

I have a standard federal form. Got it off E-OPM. Didn't you get paperwork?

How does this help and can I send it in with my MD forms?

 

[SpecialJ79]

I have a standard federal form. Got it off E-OPM. Didn't you get paperwork?

How does this help and can I send it in with my MD forms?

It's not going to help.

 

[tapeman1]

Yet unfortunely others will suffer be cause they can't (and I quote),"give up a few minutes to call."

Are you being serious right now?

If so, what number did you call?

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

It's not going to help.

Didn't think so.

Last time I got fingerprinted for work, I asked for a copy to submit to the state or could they send them? Nope.

 

[sgtjunk]

They can't release it without a NICS #, which they won't have until the MSP faxes the paperwork back to them.



Yeah, it's dumb. It's Maryland, The Free State.

Then why is everyone saying that for a private sale it can occur on the eighth day? Are you telling me there are two separate laws for these scenarios?

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[bulletbill]

Then why is everyone saying that for a private sale it can occur on the eighth day? Are you telling me there are two separate laws for these scenarios?

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Secondary purchases that go through the MSP for BG check are different. Not separate laws just differences in that no FFL is required if going through MSP for secondary. Therefore private citizens can transfer on the 8th day where an FFL couldn't.

 

[seawolf823]

Therefore private citizens can transfer on the 8th day where an FFL couldn't.

An FFL "technically" can but most will not do so without a NICS #. Basically to cover there a$$

 

[sgtjunk]

An FFL "technically" can but most will not do so without a NICS #. Basically to cover there a$$

That's what I was getting at. They could call and get the NICS number just like when they do an unregulated gun sale, couldn't they?

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[Haides]

That's what I was getting at. They could call and get the NICS number just like when they do an unregulated gun sale, couldn't they?

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No, because the point of contact for NICS for all handgun sales in MD is the MSP. NICS won't give a number to anyone but the MSP for handgun sales.

 

[tduquin]

Friday 3/15 picked up from 1-25 and 1/31 it was a happy day. Still waiting for 2/7

 

[sgtjunk]

Well it sounds like I just need to stick to private sales from now on. I have enough friends around here that it shouldn't be difficult to do regulated sales through them. By the time I get this gun it will be too late to enjoy because my new baby will be here. Guess I'll have something to look forward to this summer.

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