Montgomery County Bill 21-22

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[LuckyShot]

Its alarming when the dudes got it in his hands. Buy a sling and throw it on your back, keep a protest sign in your hands.

Not a good look for those of us who work hard on changing the gun owner stigma of being a nut aka standing outside with a rifle in your hands.

I've OC'd a rifle in springfield with my best bud when we were 19 for fun. It never left my back

 

[pcfixer]

Notice of Supplemental Authorities (Pennak, Mark) (Entered: 05/18/2023)

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Notice of Supplemental Authority to bring to the Court’s attention the decision of the district court in Koons v. Platkin, No. 22-7464 consolidated with No. 22-7463 (D. N.J. May 16, 2023) (slip opinion attached) 238 pages.

https://reason.com/volokh/2023/05/16/preliminary-injunction-against-nj-ban-on-peaceable-carry/ A good Read!

@esqappellate Why is There still is no judge assigned?

 

[esqappellate]

Notice of Supplemental Authorities (Pennak, Mark) (Entered: 05/18/2023)

Maryland Shall Issue, Inc. v. Montgomery County, Maryland, 8:21-cv-01736 - CourtListener.com

Docket for Maryland Shall Issue, Inc. v. Montgomery County, Maryland, 8:21-cv-01736 — Brought to you by Free Law Project, a non-profit dedicated to creating high quality open legal information.

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Notice of Supplemental Authority to bring to the Court’s attention the decision of the district court in Koons v. Platkin, No. 22-7464 consolidated with No. 22-7463 (D. N.J. May 16, 2023) (slip opinion attached) 238 pages.

https://reason.com/volokh/2023/05/16/preliminary-injunction-against-nj-ban-on-peaceable-carry/ A good Read!

@esqappellate Why is There still is no judge assigned?

Oh, we have a judge. Judge Chuang in Greenbelt.

 

[Allen65]

Oh, we have a judge. Judge Chuang in Greenbelt.

Judge's callsign: "SlowRoll"

 

[pcfixer]

Oh, we have a judge. Judge Chuang in Greenbelt.

Then Sir, Why this? On 5 May 23. REMANDING Counts I, II, and III to the Circuit Court for Montgomery County..

Meaning He sent it to the circuit court- Judge Chuang is in the District Court. SMH or WTF.

You just filled a supplemental on 18th! Okay How long is the wait time?

 

[Epiphany]

Then Sir, Why this? On 5 May 23. REMANDING Counts I, II, and III to the Circuit Court for Montgomery County..

Meaning He sent it to the circuit court- Judge Chuang is in the District Court. SMH or WTF.

You just filled a supplemental on 18th! Okay How long is the wait time?

He remanded part of the case - the rest stays with him.

 

[Bob A]

Judge's callsign: "SlowRoll"

Isn't he the "Engage" judge?

 

[esqappellate]

Then Sir, Why this? On 5 May 23. REMANDING Counts I, II, and III to the Circuit Court for Montgomery County..

Meaning He sent it to the circuit court- Judge Chuang is in the District Court. SMH or WTF.

You just filled a supplemental on 18th! Okay How long is the wait time?

He sent the 3 state law claims to state court, like I wanted. He kept and will rule on the five federal claims, like I wanted, including the PI motion. So the case will proceed in two courts at the same time which the County hates but which is fine with me. How long he will take to rule on the PI motion is up to him. Soon I hope.

 

[pcfixer]

He sent the 3 state law claims to state court, like I wanted. He kept and will rule on the five federal claims, like I wanted, including the PI motion. So the case will proceed in two courts at the same time which the County hates but which is fine with me. How long he will take to rule on the PI motion is up to him. Soon I hope.

Okay, got it. Thank you.

 

[Sunrise]

I'm surprised (or not) that MoCo's Bill 21-22 hasn't gotten more media coverage considering how abusive/restrictive it's been and how long this saga has gone on for.

Compare that to Maryland's SB1 where you had the Governor on CNN defending it (or attempting to) with Jake Tapper the other day and multiple write-ups in media.

Perhaps it's because Elrich isn't a presidential prospect while Moore is?
Perhaps it's because the NRA actually filed a lawsuit against Maryland's SB1, but didn't against MoCo's Bill 21-22?

AFAIK, Mr. Gutowski still hasn't written anything about Bill 21-22. Perhaps Cam Edwards is interested?: https://bearingarms.com/author/camedwards

That's the only other high-profile name coming to mind right now.

 

[RFBfromDE]

Crazy County Commies only make the news doing something like hiding fake tranny rapists. (Loudon Commies)

 

[esqappellate]

I'm surprised (or not) that MoCo's Bill 21-22 hasn't gotten more media coverage considering how abusive/restrictive it's been and how long this saga has gone on for.

Compare that to Maryland's SB1 where you had the Governor on CNN defending it (or attempting to) with Jake Tapper the other day and multiple write-ups in media.

Perhaps it's because Elrich isn't a presidential prospect while Moore is?
Perhaps it's because the NRA actually filed a lawsuit against Maryland's SB1, but didn't against MoCo's Bill 21-22?

AFAIK, Mr. Gutowski still hasn't written anything about Bill 21-22. Perhaps Cam Edwards is interested?: https://bearingarms.com/author/camedwards

That's the only other high-profile name coming to mind right now.

Actually, the Mont. Co. ordinance is so extreme that a favorable decision in that case will serve as precedent in the suit against SB1. An old Missouri saying: When pigs become hogs, they go to slaughter.

 

[Sunrise]

Actually, the Mont. Co. ordinance is so extreme that a favorable decision in that case will serve as precedent in the suit against SB1. An old Missouri saying: When pigs become hogs, they go to slaughter.

I like the sound of that. Hopefully so, sir.

 

[coinboy]

Actually, the Mont. Co. ordinance is so extreme that a favorable decision in that case will serve as precedent in the suit against SB1. An old Missouri saying: When pigs become hogs, they go to slaughter.

That's as I suspected.

What happens if they decide the state law first?

 

[LuckyShot]

He sent the 3 state law claims to state court, like I wanted. He kept and will rule on the five federal claims, like I wanted, including the PI motion. So the case will proceed in two courts at the same time which the County hates but which is fine with me. How long he will take to rule on the PI motion is up to him. Soon I hope.

Straight from the horses mouth. Best explanation yet for us legal simpletons.

 

[esqappellate]

That's as I suspected.

What happens if they decide the state law first?

Not likely, given the complexity of the state law issues and the fact that the PI motion has been pending for 5 months now. But, even it the state law issues were decided first, that would not moot the federal claim in the PI motion

 

[coinboy]

Not likely, given the complexity of the state law issues and the fact that the PI motion has been pending for 5 months now. But, even it the state law issues were decided first, that would not moot the federal claim in the PI motion.

Thank you.

 

[Sunrise]

Not likely, given the complexity of the state law issues and the fact that the PI motion has been pending for 5 months now. But, even it the state law issues were decided first, that would not moot the federal claim in the PI motion

Thank you for that explanation.

 

[SigNerd]

The transcript for the February 6th motion hearing was finally released, so I "bought" it on PACER (<$25 per quarter is free and this was $9). Attaching it here, but it's also available directly from CourtListener for free since I use recap.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.497074/gov.uscourts.mdd.497074.72.0.pdf