Montgomery County Bill 21-22

[swinokur]

I don’t think MSI can do anything until Elrich signs the legislation into law


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[RFBfromDE]

Sure would be nice if the NRA got involved.....

I've only seen GOA and MSI on the suits filed so I stick with them.

 

[habanerchaser]

What happens if you have a ccw and carry in these "safe spaces"?

 

[Bertfish]

I don’t think MSI can do anything until Elrich signs the legislation into law


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Right

No one's been affected yet

 

[LuckyShot]

What happens if you have a ccw and carry in these "safe spaces"?

I read that if the officer decides to charge you its a misdemeanor and either 1k fine or 6 months in jail.

While im no boot licker, i believe you might be lucky and get a cop who see's you have no priors,a valid permit, not a stolen gun and cut you a break but i wouldnt expect it. Wishful thinking on my part lmao

 

[davsco]

There people are beyond stupid

they cannot be (and are not) that stupid. it's clearly intentional.

 

[Sunrise]

I've only seen GOA and MSI on the suits filed so I stick with them.

Here's what the NRA published back on July 15, 2022: https://www.nraila.org/articles/20220715/maryland-montgomery-county-seeks-to-restrict-lawful-carry

It's unclear if they've done anything else since then, but I'm not seeing anything.

 

[RFBfromDE]

Here's what the NRA published back on July 15, 2022: https://www.nraila.org/articles/20220715/maryland-montgomery-county-seeks-to-restrict-lawful-carry

It's unclear if they've done anything else since then, but I'm not seeing anything.

Exactly. All they've done is write about it.

If you ain't a plaintiff. you ain't doin' shit!

 

[scottyfz6]

Here's what the NRA published back on July 15, 2022: https://www.nraila.org/articles/20220715/maryland-montgomery-county-seeks-to-restrict-lawful-carry

It's unclear if they've done anything else since then, but I'm not seeing anything.

I had a conversation many years ago with a higher up NRA person about maryland. Simply put I was told they would not spend any money in maryland beyond what they called the minimum to maintain a presence due to it being a lost cause.

Its one of the reasons I dropped my nra membership years ago.

 

[swinokur]

1000 fine and 6/months in jail

Misdemeanor


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[Bertfish]

1000 fine

Misdemeanor


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No reason to comply then. Not disqualifying even.

 

[scottyfz6]

No reason to comply then. Not disqualifying even.

Not disqualifying until MGA adds any firearm crime to the disqualifying crime list for HGP's. I can see them doing that, its a simple " Any person who has a conviction of any firearm related charges are disqualified from obtaining a HGP "

Got caught target shooting where you should not have, got caught with a loaded mag in your hunting rifle in your car, etc etc .

 

[Sunrise]

1000 fine

Misdemeanor


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See here: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/1...rying-within-100-yards-of-some-public-places/ --> Misdemeanor, punishable by fine up to $1000 and/or 6 months in jail.

 

[swinokur]

they cannot be (and are not) that stupid. it's clearly intentional.

Well then they are intentionally stupid


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[pcfixer]

Well then they are intentionally stupid


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[Sunrise]

I had a conversation many years ago with a higher up NRA person about maryland. Simply put I was told they would not spend any money in maryland beyond what they called the minimum to maintain a presence due to it being a lost cause.

Its one of the reasons I dropped my nra membership years ago.

Now that Maryland is a Shall Issue state, I wonder if they still feel that way. You'd think they wouldn't after that, but If NRA doesn't get involved in any litigation against this law, I guess they still do.

 

[habanerchaser]

Damn, I wonder if CCW insurance would still cover you...they could weasel out and not take your case...right?

 

[davsco]

Damn, I wonder if CCW insurance would still cover you...they could weasel out and not take your case...right?

do the various ccw insurance companies cover you if you break any laws, even unconstitutional ones?

 

[swinokur]

I think it's for criminal defense in the event of a shooting

Not a non shooting event


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[Sunrise]

do the various ccw insurance companies cover you if you break any laws, even unconstitutional ones?

Nope.

Here's the Delta Defense Self-Defense Liability Policy (USCCA): https://www.deltadefense.com/services

See Section 2: Exclusions

This policy does not apply to, and provides no insurance for:
a. ........
b. Criminal Acts
Any criminal act by any “insured”, including any injury or damage caused by or during any criminal act of any “insured”.

CCW Safe: https://ccwsafe.com/terms-conditions/

CRIMINAL ACTS: ....... Will not provide the services for a firearms response, if in a place where it is a misdemeanor or felony to possess a firearm or prohibited by the property owner (although all other legal weapons shall be covered). Please see exception to “Gun Free Zone” incident in FAQs.