MD Senate Executive Nominations Committee hears HPRB Appointments

[montoya32]

I can't stay quiet!!!

Did anyone notice that there seemed to be a rapport with one of the nominations and Sen. McFadden? Coincidence? Also, Miller tried throwing a bitch fit and then abstained from voting and putting his displeasure with the appointments on the record via vote. What a coward!

I have no tolerance for the shenanigans going on. I have more, but need to practice discretion for my own good and others within view of this.

 

[ComeGet]

Not saying you're him,...saying that miserable bastid was RIGHT.

LOL

Edit: Also, How does Sen Riley did not know what BATF is? A state senator does not know this?

Sheesh.

 

[zoostation]

Put me on that board.

Z: "Do you live, work, travel through, or at any time otherwise occupy space in the State of Maryland, one of the most violent states in the country?"

Applicant: "Errrr, yes?"

Z: "Sounds like good and substantial to me! I vote to issue!"

 

[Gryphon]

Not saying you're him,...saying that miserable bastid was RIGHT.

He is not "right". It may be slow, but progress is being made.

 

[PJDiesel]

He is not "right". It may be slow, but progress is being made.

His claim (in a nutshell) was that pressure on the process at the board level could/would cause backlash.

I'd say there's most definitely some form of major pushback brewing, in the pipeline or already happening.

I'm not saying it's not worth it and valuable,.... but.......

 

[LCPIWB]

What he won't say is that his buddy, Chuck Thomas, had been running the HPRB afoul of Maryland's Open Meetings Act and was continuously overseeing the deprivation of applicants' due process.

+1

+2

+3 I witnessed with DCW first hand.

+4

 

[redeemed.man]

I doubt Ms. White was "throwing the match." While her understanding of the relevant law and the quality of her votes both have been wanting, she seems sincere, if ill-informed. There is no conflict of interest in having an individual on the Board who is highly knowledgeable about firearms and how and when to employ or not employ them. **********She has recused herself when indicated.********** What was somewhat confusing was her description of her professional activities as perhaps involving advocacy before the Board. Her point that she personally applies a rigorous hurdle before even taking on a client for training seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle and could have been better articulated. It was no help that she was being questioned by individuals with no interest in the truth of matters. Again, better advance insight from sources knowledgeable about the legislative process would have been helpful.

*****not accurate*****

Evidence to be released by others at a later date.

 

[highli99]

Put me on that board.

Z: "Do you live, work, travel through, or at any time otherwise occupy space in the State of Maryland, one of the most violent states in the country?"

Applicant: "Errrr, yes?"

Z: "Sounds like good and substantial to me! I vote to issue!"

nomination submitted

 

[ComeGet]

+5

Finally got finished watching this thing.

White should have just stopped talking about a minute in.

McFadden does not appear to know what the board does. He thinks this is about acquiring a firearm, not about carrying.

Also, it was fun watching him squirm while Wilson was dissing his buddy Thomas.

Wilson did a great job, which was no surprise.

I hope the backlash from the Dems does not come, but I am concerned.

 

[redeemed.man]

I disagree, "word on the street" is what they hear and believe from their constituents.

My state senator is Kathy Klausmeier. Someone I have known for sometime. Her office tells me they have gotten complaints about the current board and that complaints are being made across the MGA and to the AG's office.

My guess is the decisions of the new board will be under close scrutiny. Too many reversals will come back to haunt Hogan in the next election.

Nonsense, the general public could care less about the HPRB, few if any voters other than us even know what it is. There is zero percent chance the happenings at the HPRB sway the election away from Hogan. I am not saying whether he will be re-elected or not but HPRB won't cause him grief at election time no matter what they do.

 

[LCPIWB]

The results posted.
It is interesting to note that White and West appointed to serve out starting March 27, 2014, meaning they only have another year on the board.
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/Pubs/Committee/2016RS-senate-executive-nominations-report-6.pdf

 

[DC-W]

Thanks for the update!

 

[ShafTed]

A question: will the floor vote be for the approval of the board as a group, or for the individual members separately. That is, could they approve some and reject others, or will the board "live or die" as a group?

 

[montoya32]

A question: will the floor vote be for the approval of the board as a group, or for the individual members separately. That is, could they approve some and reject others, or will the board "live or die" as a group?

Should be individual. Remember, they serve staggered terms.

 

[rbird7282]

If this is true, the only way antis would know the outcomes is by lurking at MDS and complaining about HPRB reversals of LD decisions to members in the MGA (or the AG's office priming the pump and telling their fellow travelers that this is occurring). It could be a very small number of people complaining about the HPRB granting an occasional permit (the horror), but persistently contacting different members. Otherwise, where would these decisions be reported or easily found by the general public? Have the antis been a regular presence at prior meetings (or just recent ones)?

THIS. You could ask 1,000 random democrats in this state what the HPRB was and maybe 2 of them would have any clue who they are and what they do. Antis are the cancer of Maryland

 

[Rack&Roll]

The results posted.
It is interesting to note that White and West appointed to serve out starting March 27, 2014, meaning they only have another year on the board.
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/Pubs/Committee/2016RS-senate-executive-nominations-report-6.pdf

Good riddance. They are political appointees with no guts. They are extending ancient Marvin Mandel infringements on modern day upstanding Marylanders. They simply don't read or know history, or understand policy, or embrace the arc of 2A jurisprudence over the last 20 years.

They are just worriers worrying, and fretters fretting.

 

[Not_an_outlaw]

WTF - How is McFadden allowed to sit there? A trend is shifting to Due Process. Can't have that now, can we?????

Why the love for the MSP. It's BLM, we hate police, to guns on the street, police only! I'm confused.

 

[CypherPunk]

A question: will the floor vote be for the approval of the board as a group, or for the individual members separately. That is, could they approve some and reject others, or will the board "live or die" as a group?

Afaik, all those appointed by the governor and endorsed by the senate committee (the green bag) will be considered and typically approved via a single senate vote.

 

[Matlack]

First McFadden doesnt seem to be capable of postulating an articulate comment. It may have something to do with him paying more attention to what is at the bottom of his glass. He sounds drunk every time he opened his mouth. He also seemed to insinuate that he knows something, which seemed even less likely with every word that came out of his mouth. No matter what was said or the topic of discussion he felt the need to say the same things over and over. I think he asked 1 question and made 12 statements, all of which were the same, "I heard on the street ... wah wah wah ... shifting right ... wah wah wah ... im going to be paying clooooose attention to this". As if he has some sort of street cred. And then to suggest he is going to pay attention to something that didnt have a string, lots of powder, and a hundred dollar bill is laughable. Id like to know what he is smoking, cuz its gotta be some good shiiite. Also it seems that MSP is infallible and that the board is only to rubber stamp whatever MSP decided, oh wait isnt that what they were doing before? Im glad written law and statutes where there just for show, similarly the constitution.

Ms. White needed to just shut her mouth, or for anyone coming before the board maybe she should have kept talking and talked her way right off the board. If McFadden was actually paying attention to anything maybe he wouldnt have given her such a hard time. But then again grand standing for political points never really cared about what reality and truth.

Right now the MGA is doing everything in its power to make Hogan look bad. It hasnt been working to this point, his approval rating is hovering around 70%. This is just another tool for them to achieve their goal, remember all those ads with guns sitting at the playground and leaning on a tree in your neighborhood. Worked so well they felt like trying to pull those ads back out for 2018. Lets see what Friday will bring.

 

[mcbruzdzinski]

Afaik, all those appointed by the governor and endorsed by the senate committee (the green bag) will be considered and typically approved via a single senate vote.

While this has been true in past, I suspect Miller (and others) may force a individual vote (or even one by commission/board) to bring forth the issue of how Hogan is making it easier for folks to carry and how it goes against the MGA work to promote gun safety.