Looks like we're going to court boys (and girls)..

[Ken Stanka]

A coherent and united front will be hard, when it comes to details.

Two examples:
1. I support a National Preemptive Act that voids all state and local firearms laws and reserves that power to the Federal Government. A lot of people would oppose this on the grounds that it tramples state authority. Is this a bug, or a feature?

2. I consider background checks part of the trade space. You want background checks? Offer to repeal an existing law, and we'll talk. This latter puts our opponents on the defensive - it shows them as defining "compromise" as a surrender on terms.

If we cant be unfied then we will lose, there is no other outcome. They are united against us, we need to be just as much of a team against them.

 

[gungate]

A coherent and united front will be hard, when it comes to details.

Two examples:
1. I support a National Preemptive Act that voids all state and local firearms laws and reserves that power to the Federal Government. A lot of people would oppose this on the grounds that it tramples state authority. Is this a bug, or a feature?

2. I consider background checks part of the trade space. You want background checks? Offer to repeal an existing law, and we'll talk. This latter puts our opponents on the defensive - it shows them as defining "compromise" as a surrender on terms.

You are starting from a deeply flawed and dangerous assumption; that the left is interested in public safety and common ground. This could not be farther from the truth. The left wants ALL guns banned NOW. Guns are counter to government. They keep the government in check. Therefore, they must go. Any "negotiation" will result in a loss of gun rights and nothing else. Look at the existing background checks. None of the records were supposed to be kept. However, weren't we just told not to worry about registering grandfathered firearms since they already have a record of those?

No way no how no where a national background check will ever NOT result in a gun registry. And a gun registry serves 2 purposes; the ability to confiscate or tax a firearm.

 

[Traveler]

Its not about criminals obeying law or whether it works, its 100% about conceding something that does not impact law abiding citizens to appeaze the left.

Because that worked so well with Hitler?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement

 

[rockstarr]

i need to become a member of the NRA myself. I was a fence sitter till about 2 years ago. Never thought one way or the other towards them. I had been to the range a few times but had never considered owning a firearm (or several now) myself. After educating myself on them it became ever so clear what the other side was up to.

The ones that really burn me up on the inside are the antis that work to grab our firearms but are protected by them in their everyday job...

 

[constitutional_right]

I signed up to become a life member, on April 5th. Glad they are taking action

 

[Patrick]

I just hope the court action mentioned does not turn out to be NRA vaporware

Real. And not just NRA.

Multiple groups, multiple factions, multiple philosophies. Those who wouldn't talk before 2013 are now linked daily and going to family picnics together.

Things changed.

They don't know what they created.

Yet.

 

[dblas]

Real. And not just NRA.

Multiple groups, multiple factions, multiple philosophies. Those who wouldn't talk before 2013 are now linked daily and going to family picnics together.

Things changed.

They don't know what they created.

Yet.

Well, the fact that You and Shannon and John all talked and worked in the same direction without argument or fail this year, is a very bad thing for the other side....

 

[occbrian]

Well, the fact that You and Shannon and John all talked and worked in the same direction without argument or fail this year, is a very bad thing for the other side....

Agreed.

On a personal note, cryptic messages and warnings always put a smile on my face.

 

[Glock_Fireman]

Agreed.

On a personal note, cryptic messages and warnings always put a smile on my face.

 

[dink74]

Did Omalley actually sign the bill, or is he sitting on it?

Dink

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

Did Omalley actually sign the bill, or is he sitting on it?

Dink

Waiting for Dear Leader to work in a visit, no doubt.

*** Capturing the media and schools results in capturing the minds of the public ***

 

[Glock_Fireman]

Waiting for Dear Leader to work in a visit, no doubt.

*** Capturing the media and schools results in capturing the minds of the public ***

It was in the news that he feels we the people are going to find a way to Fight SB281 so he doesn't want to sign the bill just yet.

 

[Inigoes]

It was in the news that he feels we the people are going to find a way to Fight SB281 so he doesn't want to sign the bill just yet.

That's the point, he doesn't have to sign it.

He has 30 days (IIRC) to veto a bill, otherwise it becomes law.

 

[Traveler]

That's the point, he doesn't have to sign it.

He has 30 days (IIRC) to veto a bill, otherwise it becomes law.

I would not be at all surprised if the spineless fool did it that way to keep from getting his hands dirty. Bet Martie's buddies will love that. It will hang around their necks, not his.

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

Excerpted from MD Constitution:
legislature section
"SEC. 30. Every bill, when passed by the General Assembly, and sealed with the Great Seal, shall be presented by the presiding officer of the House in which it originated to the Governor for his approval. All bills passed during a regular or special session shall be presented to the Governor for his approval no later than 20 days after adjournment. Within 30 days after presentment, if the Governor approves the bill, he shall sign the same in the presence of the presiding officers and Chief Clerks of the Senate and House of Delegates. Every Law shall be recorded in the office of the Court of Appeals, and in due time, be printed, published and certified under the Great Seal, to the several Courts, in the same manner as has been heretofore usual in this State (amended by Chapter 883, Acts of 1974, ratified Nov. 5, 1974)."
Executive section
"(c) Any Bill presented to the Governor within six days (Sundays excepted), prior to adjournment of any session of the General Assembly, or after such adjournment, shall become law without the Governor's signature unless it is vetoed by the Governor within 30 days after its presentment."

*** Capturing the media and schools results in capturing the minds of the public ***

 

[Brooklyn]

I would not be at all surprised if the spineless fool did it that way to keep from getting his hands dirty. Bet Martie's buddies will love that. It will hang around their necks, not his.

That would be a gift.it would open wounds that will take decades to heal. Not even mom is that stupid. Unless his allies really ticked him off by even touching his handiwork.

Even then he must realize that there is still another session next year......

We can hope he is that stupid.

 

[Patrick]

It was in the news that he feels we the people are going to find a way to Fight SB281 so he doesn't want to sign the bill just yet.

I call BS. He's waiting for Obama to schedule the signing ceremony.

 

[Glock_Fireman]

I call BS. He's waiting for Obama to schedule the signing ceremony.

Hey I agree I was only stating what I read in the news. But it would be funny as hell for him to stab his goonies in the back and hang this around their necks.

 

[madness3120]

so its looking like we dont need to rush out an buy our scary black rifles before oct 1 after all huh?

 

[bmelton]

so its looking like we dont need to rush out an buy our scary black rifles before oct 1 after all huh?

Short of a miracle, this bill WILL get enacted. It might be an attempt to lull you into a false sense of security, but the law is going into effect with almost 100% certainty.