Kel Tec RFB

[the Javid]

so really what's the difference between the RFB and a FAL? I would put them both in the same class.

You mean besides the fact that the RFB is a bullpup lump of Kel-Tec poop that has a horrible jam rate and is almost impossible to find, while the FAL is a traditional configuration battle rifle that is reliable and combat proven?

 

[Wayne1one]

Does anyone know if this is an Oleg Volk photo? It reminds me of his work.

Yes it is!!

 

[Hopalong]

so really what's the difference between the RFB and a FAL? I would put them both in the same class.

They are both semi-automatic rifles that fire the same round and accept the same magazine. Other than that, they have pretty much nothing in common.

 

[Knuckle66]

I guess I was asking the wrong question. What makes an FAL an FAL vs. anything else?

 

[mikec]

I guess I was asking the wrong question. What makes an FAL an FAL vs. anything else?

The design.

What makes an AR-15 different from a Remington Model 700? Two different designs.

The FAL is a gas operated rifle that uses a piston, like many other guns, but it has a look and feel that is different. There are two different families of FAL, the Metric and the Inch pattern guns. Inch guns for some reason were never made with a folding stock and almost none were made with full auto capabilities.

The Metric guns can be had as a folder and there are full auto versions but US law made importing those hard after the GCA of '68 was passed.

When the US was looking at the M14 the FAL was also being considered. The M14 at that time was called the T44, the FAL was called the T48. Most of the T48's are in storage somewhere.

 

[bkuether]

I'm still looking for a FAL. I'm leaning to Stag Firearms because the make left handed guns, this was another reason I liked the idea of the RFB. http://www.stagarms.com/index.php?cPath=13_44 There is just something about this gun I just love.

+1 on left handed Stag Arms rifles. Love my 8L PLUSSSSSS........

 

[Knuckle66]

The design.

What makes an AR-15 different from a Remington Model 700? Two different designs.

The FAL is a gas operated rifle that uses a piston, like many other guns, but it has a look and feel that is different. There are two different families of FAL, the Metric and the Inch pattern guns. Inch guns for some reason were never made with a folding stock and almost none were made with full auto capabilities.

The Metric guns can be had as a folder and there are full auto versions but US law made importing those hard after the GCA of '68 was passed.

When the US was looking at the M14 the FAL was also being considered. The M14 at that time was called the T44, the FAL was called the T48. Most of the T48's are in storage somewhere.

Thanks for the info!

 

[Knuckle66]

+1 on left handed Stag Arms rifles. Love my 8L PLUSSSSSS........

so you like your 8L. I was looking at those but the 3G just keeps calling my name.

 

[the Javid]

I guess I was asking the wrong question. What makes an FAL an FAL vs. anything else?

Just so you know that question is like asking what makes a 1911 a 1911 vs. anything else or what makes a cat a cat vs. anything else.

 

[aquaman]

 

[ESS]

No issues here (gen2 gas)

 

[DarthZed]

I've read of many problems with the initial batch of RFBs. I really wanted one, but decided to pass considering all the issues. According to the most recent forums, Keltec has addressed most of them; but the jury is still out on long term reliability. I doubt it will ever reach FAL levels. I've never shot the RFB. But My FAL is a blast, and the AUG and PS90 are two of my favorite rifles (I love bullpups, getting I'm a Tavor next year when funds permit). The PS90 has a much better trigger than the AUG (MSAR, same difference). But you can greatly improve the feel of the AUG trigger with a Ratworx AR trigger pack for $200. It will then accept any AR trigger, and even a basic AR FCG feels better than the plastic AUG trigger pack. Even the $25 Trigger Tamer greatly improves the feel. I simply soaked the pack in Armor All Wax, (and coated the trigger and linkages) and the lubrication really improved feel.

Gratuitous pics of three of my favorite guns.