Imagine an HOA so pathetic, the members want to violate rights inside private homes (no guns)

[jc1240]

HOA wants to ban guns in the neighborhood including inside private homes.

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

What’s the problem?

 

[jc1240]

What’s the problem?

"What'a the problem" with the HOA making such a rule or
"What's the problem" that incited the HOA?

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

First. I’m unlikely to watch. TBH

HOAs are the work of the devil. Literally. The legal profession and the joke of a Justice system has built and fostered further the gift that keeps on giving… to them.

Anybody who doesn’t appreciate the Justice system as a marketplace where our money becomes their money is missing the boat.

Nothing an HOA does or tries to do surprises me.

Did you think they would never tackle the COTUS? Nah. You’re more clever than that.

Parsing the options…HOA making the rule and HOA motivated to make the rule are kinda immaterial given that it’s made. Whomever made it and whomever voted/moved to approve it are equally feckless. Indeed, I’d suggest they’ve abandoned their fiduciary responsibility and are, in fact and deed, casually inviting suit against the corporation.

 

[Alan3413]

I'd love to see them try to enforce this

 

[mpollan1]

Meh, just put up Gun Free Zone signs and the bad guys will stay away. Don't laugh, it works.

 

[kshaw]

First, the HOA would need a deep pocket to sustain legal challenges from homeowners contending that the HOA is attempting to deny owners of their constitutional rights. Homeowners within the HOA might oppose their HOA fees being diverted to implement gun control.

 

[Silverlode]

I would open carry an AR every time I walked my dog. My dog would also open carry.

 

[Occam]

First, the HOA would need a deep pocket to sustain legal challenges from homeowners contending that the HOA is attempting to deny owners of their constitutional rights. Homeowners within the HOA might oppose their HOA fees being diverted to implement gun control.

And of course (just like we're so familiar with in Maryland, where it's our tax dollars used against us) the HOA would fight back using money taken from the residents as HOA fees to bring lawyers to court.

 

[TheOriginalMexicanBob]

There should be a reality tv show on HOAs...it could be called "American Nazis".

 

[pcfixer]

A little over a month ago I move OUT of a condo- We owned it. STOP. So the HOA had no authority to ban guns
in MY condo. Yea. Ilve in Md. HOA did ban smoking on the 9x4 patio, they said community property.
I did not want to fight that issue- Glad I'm not there and out of a communistic mentality. Own a single family dwelling in Frederick.
And the property surrounding it. about .39 acres.

 

[willtill]

I would open carry an AR every time I walked my dog. My dog would also open carry.

I would use the dog to carry spare mags.

 

[Batt816]

HOA can KMA

 

[Brute]

I would use the dog to carry spare mags.

If emotional support animals are a thing, I think there's a compelling argument for tactical support animals too.

 

[Afrikeber]

And of course (just like we're so familiar with in Maryland, where it's our tax dollars used against us) the HOA would fight back using money taken from the residents as HOA fees to bring lawyers to court.

HOA’s have been very successful in forcing those who oppose them in court to pay their legal fees.

 

[308Scout]

HOA’s have been very successful in forcing those who oppose them in court to pay their legal fees.

It's actually written into a lot of HOA agreements. Our last house was in a HOA community, and IIRC, there was verbiage in there about covering their legal fees in any legal action that you'd bring against them. Never going back to a HOA again.

 

[MaxVO2]

HOA’s have been very successful in forcing those who oppose them in court to pay their legal fees.

****Yes, this is true. There is a community nearby (King Farm) with a pretty strict HOA that has gone to court with residents, won their cases, and the tenant was ordered to pay the legal fees of the HOA in addition to their own. It was over architectural standards and the amount was well in excess of $10k (project, legal fee loss, and hauling away of materials, etc..) for a job the resident failed to inform them about, pay their fees, and provide plans for the HOA board to approve/disapprove.

The resident figured they could do whatever modifications to their property they wanted, and they were wrong, went to court, lost in court and paid dearly for it in addition to having to pay for their clearly not to code deck to be torn out and hauled away... Took years to get this all done but the HOA got their legal fees paid for in addition to back fees from the resident being angry and refusing to pay the HOA fee. Resident had a lien placed on the home so even if they sold the property the bill would have come out from the proceeds of the sale.

Super aggressive.

 

[Bob A]

****Yes, this is true. There is a community nearby (King Farm) with a pretty strict HOA that has gone to court with residents, won their cases, and the tenant was ordered to pay the legal fees of the HOA in addition to their own. It was over architectural standards and the amount was well in excess of $10k (project, legal fee loss, and hauling away of materials, etc..) for a job the resident failed to inform them about, pay their fees, and provide plans for the HOA board to approve/disapprove.

The resident figured they could do whatever modifications to their property they wanted, and they were wrong, went to court, lost in court and paid dearly for it in addition to having to pay for their clearly not to code deck to be torn out and hauled away... Took years to get this all done but the HOA got their legal fees paid for in addition to back fees from the resident being angry and refusing to pay the HOA fee. Resident had a lien placed on the home so even if they sold the property the bill would have come out from the proceeds of the sale.

Super aggressive.

Freedom is another word for nothing left to lose.

You want to be free from mob rule? You have to go where the mob is not.

I've previously mentioned the apocryphal story of Daniel Boone, who bethought himself to relocate when he saw the cooking fires from another homestead on the horizon.

 

[Melnic]

HOA leaders who stay for a long time are often kids bullied in school as a child. I sat on the board for 3 years. Our HOA had zero enforcement authority and was limited on fines that could only be enforced through Liens on a home. I vetoed a number of votes to put liens on people which were very much unwarranted.

Nazi is a good description of many of them.
I belonged to one (still do) where they put restrictions on Sat dishes even though courts ruled they could not.

Guns, right , bring it on


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[Cool_Moo5e]

HOA wants to ban guns in the neighborhood including inside private homes.

you don't own anything in an HOA, a kid I use to hang out with after school lived in an HOA and they couldn't do XYZ after 8pm, no noise above X db it sounds like small-time communism if you ask me 15 or so years later.